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Old 11-26-2009, 09:26 PM
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what a car can do is one thing


what a driver can make it do is another
Old 11-28-2009, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by NoWin
If you lost 50 lbs, had slicks, full boltons, perfect tune, and ran at Atco on a perfect night you might see a 12.5.
That's ridiculous.

He needs some test pipes and an exhaust and maybe intakes and it will run 12s with a good driver.

I beat the 335i auto and I have a revup. Not even a tune.

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Old 11-29-2009, 08:07 PM
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Thanks guys,

If funny how you much you like your car until the competition starts beating on you, then its like she cheated on you.

I'll start saving for a SC i guess.
Old 11-29-2009, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BMY370Z
Thanks guys,

If funny how you much you like your car until the competition starts beating on you, then its like she cheated on you.

I'll start saving for a SC i guess.
Welcome back. I got $20 bet against you. Don't disappoint me.
Old 11-29-2009, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by davidv
Welcome back. I got $20 bet against you. Don't disappoint me.
your posts are the highlight of my day lol.

370's were making around 350ish whp w/ full boltons yes? (been outta the loop lately)
i think w/ slicks a hgher 12 is possible. driver needs to pracice launch control etc before you go out. remember though, the track grips a whole ton different than the street
Old 11-29-2009, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrei
That's ridiculous.

He needs some test pipes and an exhaust and maybe intakes and it will run 12s with a good driver.

I beat the 335i auto and I have a revup. Not even a tune.
Why am I struggling to believe you?
Old 11-30-2009, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by NISMO_558
It also had 4.08 gears, without the gears, a 12.8 wouldn't have been possible.
yeah, gears, exhaust,HFC, intake, pullies, tune, I think maybe headers too...well close to full bolt on I guess. just barely missing 12.7 is nothing to sneeze at in a Auto. with slicks i can see maybe an extra .2 I still think 12.5 is a definate possible.
Old 11-30-2009, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by davidv

$20 says BMY370Z can not run 13.50 seconds. Any takers?
Great bet. You don't have much confidence in the fellow do you?

~Dv8
Old 11-30-2009, 10:53 AM
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370Z already runs low 13s. And the VQ37 responds extremely well to mods - such as test pipes and exhausts. Naturally when you add things like test pipes and a new exhaust, you're also shaving a good amount of weight off the car (OEM cats weigh 15-17lbs each, vs 1lb for a TP) - so the weight reduction happens eitherway.

But yeah, I think with test pipes, true-dual exhaust, and a tune, the 370Z will run a mid-12 no problems. Even though the 335i may put out more power, it also has a lot more weight to carry. A 370Z weighs anywhere between 3350-3400lbs, meanwhile a 335i weighs ~3600lbs. And if you get the hardtop convertible, it's over 4000lbs. If you get the AWD coupe, it's 3800bs.
Old 11-30-2009, 12:24 PM
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I bet with a good driver a 370 can run mid 12's with just slicks.
Old 11-30-2009, 03:15 PM
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A bolt-on 370 (330ish whp) should be able to run 12.2-12.4 on a real tire. They make enough power to pull 1.7 60's. Not enough on the track to see if the suspension, etc will transition the power effectively to the ground, but high 1.7's are probable.
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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz
A bolt-on 370 (330ish whp) should be able to run 12.2-12.4 on a real tire. They make enough power to pull 1.7 60's. Not enough on the track to see if the suspension, etc will transition the power effectively to the ground, but high 1.7's are probable.
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Originally Posted by NISMO_558
....Fail, it shouldn't be a problem.
Old 12-01-2009, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by NISMO_558
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Originally Posted by ajcool2
Don't hate......he has seen racing videos on youtube.....he's a pro.
Old 12-01-2009, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by NoWin
If you lost 50 lbs, had slicks, full boltons, perfect tune, and ran at Atco on a perfect night you might see a 12.5.
I'm glad someone else realizes the power of the almighty Atco Raceway
Old 12-01-2009, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz
Don't hate......he has seen racing videos on youtube.....he's a pro.
You're quite the $hit talker

I'm a see it to believe it kind of guy, you can sit there and say " it should be able to run 12.2-12.4 on a real tire", but until it actually happens, you shouldn't be so cocky.

Originally Posted by singh
your not running 12.4 in a 370z without a turbo/ supercharger..
This

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Old 12-01-2009, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by NISMO_558
You're quite the $hit talker

I'm a see it to believe it kind of guy, you can sit there and say " it should be able to run 12.2-12.4 on a real tire", but until it actually happens, you shouldn't be so cocky.



This
the same exact thing can be said about your argument, untill you see it, you cant discount the possibility... and the fact that one with bolt ons has already run a 12.8 on street tires, def. shows promise... I really would not be suprised to see one run a 12.6 or better on good rubber...
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Originally Posted by C5_vette
the same exact thing can be said about your argument, untill you see it, you cant discount the possibility... and the fact that one with bolt ons has already run a 12.8 on street tires, def. shows promise... I really would not be suprised to see one run a 12.6 or better on good rubber...

True, which is why I think people need to quit the whole "it should go XX.XX" or "with this mod and that mod it can run a XX.XX"

How about just stop guessing, and run the damn car
Old 12-01-2009, 03:26 PM
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Alright.....a high 1.7 (more than doable with a competent driver on DR's/Slicks) and traps of 110-112 (which I believe has already happened in the run referenced in the post above)=low-mid 12's.

The 370's added power will allow them to accelerate through the first 60' quicker than a lesser power 350. There have been a few NA 350's that have run this quickly in the short timing mark. The question will be weather the chassis/suspension allots enough weight transfer to the rear. The suspension is stiffer, but that is always a bad thing.

While you are right that it hasn't been done.......I would put generous bet that you will see a 12.2-12.5 from an NA 370 before the end of 10'.

Then again what would I know I only made 155 passes this year.


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