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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 11:05 AM
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Maybe he hadn't read his manual yet.
Micah probably didn't read it, he's never needed one for drag racing the Civic

That Civic was pretty fast though.
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 07:07 AM
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i do not know why people keep comparing the gtr to the ZR1? the GTR was made to compete with the zo6 not the zr1! gtr vs 911 turbo vs zo6 then it goes Vspec vs gt2 vs zr1 vs ACR. I love all of these cars(i would prefer a gt3). But with the transmission even the ferrari enzo can only take 6 full standing launches.
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 09:58 AM
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Duno if this is a repost but...


http://blogs.motortrend.com/6356422/...ged/index.html
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 10:08 AM
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I hate nissan as a company even more.
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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Maybe what Nissan needs is a true SPORTS CAR to compete with comparison(corvette,GT3,some may not understand.2seater,AWD and plenty of boost.!
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 02:05 PM
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If LC is taken out of the GTR, it might not be as quick as it should be from a dead stop, but it'll still be every bit as fast as it is around corners and a track. The GTR wasnt designed to be just fast in a straight line.
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 03:41 PM
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I am glade I bought the ZO6 instead of the GT-R. No problems yet but don't get me wrong those Gt-Rs are sweet.
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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I mean... Sound Performance's Z blew their diff a the track too but how many times have we heard that happen
No they didn't. That was their initial impression but it turned out to be on the the axle hubs backed itself out a little so only a small second of splines were engaged and they got stripped. the rear diff is just fine. All they needed was a new hub.

Nissan rear ends are like the Ford 9 inch of the import world. Strong as $hit.

I honestly don't understand why GM doesn't put better rear ends in their performance vehicles. C5/C6 rear ends are like glass and so were the f-body solid axles.
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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No they didn't. That was their initial impression but it turned out to be on the the axle hubs backed itself out a little so only a small second of splines were engaged and they got stripped. the rear diff is just fine. All they needed was a new hub.

Nissan rear ends are like the Ford 9 inch of the import world. Strong as $hit.

I honestly don't understand why GM doesn't put better rear ends in their performance vehicles. C5/C6 rear ends are like glass and so were the f-body solid axles.
Ahhh, thanks for the correction.

I didn't check up on the thread beyond them saying it was either the clutch or tranny to the diff and I thought that's what the verdict was.

Sorry about that.
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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Probably a good thing Nissan is getting rid of the LC.
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Does anyone know what specific part is breaking on the GT-R transmissions?
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 04:46 AM
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Does anyone know what specific part is breaking on the GT-R transmissions?
I believe it's the gears.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by blasian
I believe it's the gears.
Obviously it's got to be first gear if it is the gear. The question is are the gear teeth shearing off (very hard to believe as first gears in MTs are VERY VERY stout...even in crappy transmissions), or is it the engagement ring separating from the main gear (more believable and definitely fixable)
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep
How do you know that a traditional 6 speed wont break on the GT-R?
Cost to rebuild a manual is drastically cheaper. So im sure the cost to rebuild the manual over the auto you could 10 manuals rebuilt
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by kramykram
Cost to rebuild a manual is drastically cheaper. So im sure the cost to rebuild the manual over the auto you could 10 manuals rebuilt
The GT-R does have a conventional manual transmission, the difference is the shift mechanism is electronically actuated and it has dual electric clutches instead of a conventional hydraulic user operated clutch.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 06:36 AM
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We Americans seem to see things differently then alot of people in the World. Most Europeans seem to see the Z06/ZR1 as a Muscle car great at 0-60 times fasta round the track but sloopy/hard work doing it. They seem to hate the Viper calling it rubbish/trash even though it beat the Z06 track time.

Some seem to like the Z33 fo what it is and have nothing but raving reviews about the GTR even when compared to Lambos, Ferriras, Porsches and other super Cars.
On the other had I believe the C5/Z06/ZR1s and Vipers are Super Cars that cost less then 1/2 of the price of a Lambo/Ferrira or some Porsches, it takes more work to control them because they are less refined. But looks and performance wise the Vette is hard to beat, but it is not imho as refined as the GTR. So the GTR's numbers 0-60 and lap times and how it feels doing it makes it the Super Car it IS.

You can't have it all for $70k-$80k just like the ZR1 at $100k doesn't have it all but its is close. A C5/Z06 or ZR1 are fine looking vehicles and GM should be proud to say that this is the best we have to offer for the money. I'd only slightly lean toward the GTR bc its so refined.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by BriGuyMax
The GT-R does have a conventional manual transmission, the difference is the shift mechanism is electronically actuated and it has dual electric clutches instead of a conventional hydraulic user operated clutch.
That's not a real manual.I know what the gtr tranny is and how it works. I have read plenty about it. But as I was saying the cost of a real manual is cheaper. Not the electronic maunual/auto.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by kramykram
That's not a real manual.I know what the gtr tranny is and how it works. I have read plenty about it. But as I was saying the cost of a real manual is cheaper. Not the electronic maunual/auto.
The internals of the actual transmission are the SAME AS A CONVENTIONAL MANUAL. It is electronically controlled internally, it has the clutchs integrated into it and the rear diff, that's why it's so expensive.
There are three different physical types of transmissions installed in passenger cars these days.

1. Manual
2. Automatic
3. CVT

The trans in the GT-R doesn't have clutch packs and it's not a CVT...so there's only one option left.

If you don't believe me...I don't know what to tell you...but the trans in the GT-R is NOT an automatic.



Looks nothing like an auto/manual...no planatary gear sets. Re-build of this trans shouldn't technically be more expensive since the gears that are failing are just simple gears like a manual. There's no valve body to clean out, or anything to really adjust. That's assuming the electronic parts are easily removable an don't need to be replaced if removed...
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BriGuyMax
Obviously it's got to be first gear if it is the gear. The question is are the gear teeth shearing off (very hard to believe as first gears in MTs are VERY VERY stout...even in crappy transmissions), or is it the engagement ring separating from the main gear (more believable and definitely fixable)
Yes it's the base of the gears. You can see stress fractures on those that have failed (I've only heard of something like 3 -4 of all the GT-R's so far).

Right now the speculation is that the oem transmission fluid isn't as good as it could be and it contributes to accelerated wear of the gears.

It's interesting to note that we haven't heard of anyone frying a clutch yet, just gear wear/breakage.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by GZire
Yes it's the base of the gears. You can see stress fractures on those that have failed (I've only heard of something like 3 -4 of all the GT-R's so far).

Right now the speculation is that the oem transmission fluid isn't as good as it could be and it contributes to accelerated wear of the gears.

It's interesting to note that we haven't heard of anyone frying a clutch yet, just gear wear/breakage.
You'd swear a thousand of them broke

There are now two owners on NAGTROC that ran 11.6x ETs without launch control.
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