No more Launch Control in 2010 GTR
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I've read over the posts about trans fluid in the GT-R and these are my conclusions.
The failure rate of the GR6 trans is VERY VERY low so far. That said it does seem that upgrading to a better trans fluid can significantly protect the GR6 from wear and stress. Although based on the VOIDING of the factory warranty with a fluid change, I would say only owners who really drive their cars hard or race them should worry about it.
The fact is, if you don't beat the crap out of your GT-R and the trans fails...Nissan is going to cover it for you. So for most everyday Joe GT-R owners this shouldn't even be of concern.
The failure rate of the GR6 trans is VERY VERY low so far. That said it does seem that upgrading to a better trans fluid can significantly protect the GR6 from wear and stress. Although based on the VOIDING of the factory warranty with a fluid change, I would say only owners who really drive their cars hard or race them should worry about it.
The fact is, if you don't beat the crap out of your GT-R and the trans fails...Nissan is going to cover it for you. So for most everyday Joe GT-R owners this shouldn't even be of concern.
What makes a great sports car (minus the transmission design flaw) a great sports car?
If you get to cater the question to your ends...I get to cater the answer to mine.....
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As far as "racing" goes. The production GT-R is a street car that can perform very well on a track. It is NOT a race car. If you're going to take part in sanctioned racing frequently, you're going to have to throw all expectations of "perceived reliability" out the window.
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TOYOTA!!!! PLEASE RESSURECT THE SUPRA TURBO....SO WE CAN HAVE A REAL SPORTS CAR THAT CAN TAKE SOME SERIOUS ABUSE....and purrrrrrr like a Lexus at the end of the day.
Hey wait....im on a Nissan forum?...DOH!!!
Hey wait....im on a Nissan forum?...DOH!!!
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There is no "design flaw". The car was designed to dominate road courses...no? On what part of a day on a road course do you repeatedly stop and launch the car as hard as possible? The only way the VERY FEW GR6 transmissions are failing is by repeated abuse from a dead stop. The car wasn't designed as a drag car. I would have total confidence tracking a GT-R weekend after weekend. This is not full out RACING by any means.
As far as "racing" goes. The production GT-R is a street car that can perform very well on a track. It is NOT a race car. If you're going to take part in sanctioned racing frequently, you're going to have to throw all expectations of "perceived reliability" out the window.
As far as "racing" goes. The production GT-R is a street car that can perform very well on a track. It is NOT a race car. If you're going to take part in sanctioned racing frequently, you're going to have to throw all expectations of "perceived reliability" out the window.
True...yet, here are my questions:
1) If Nissan has incorporated a LC, didn't they thoroughly test it? I mean, did Nissan just decide to reprogram a LC and hope no one was going to find out about it?
2) I beleive Nissan knew that the LC would damage the trans somehow, (especially when dealers are making you sign waivers, and its written in the owners manual about voiding warranties), soooo...if this a "programmed" feature...which it is as the GR6 is computer controlled....where are the sensors restricting hard launches multiple times one after the other???? Exactly!
3) This is a PHUCKEN' Nurburgring developed/tested car....HOW THE HELL IS SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENING??? Its un-heard-of for a car of its status. Something doesn't add up...
R34 GTR & MKIV Supra Turbo = BEST SPORTS CARS TO EVER WEAR THE "MADE IN JAPAN" TAGS!!! PERIOD!
True...yet, here are my questions:
1) If Nissan has incorporated a LC, didn't they thoroughly test it? I mean, did Nissan just decide to reprogram a LC and hope no one was going to find out about it?
2) I beleive Nissan knew that the LC would damage the trans somehow, (especially when dealers are making you sign waivers, and its written in the owners manual about voiding warranties), soooo...if this a "programmed" feature...which it is as the GR6 is computer controlled....where are the sensors restricting hard launches multiple times one after the other???? Exactly!
3) This is a PHUCKEN' Nurburgring developed/tested car....HOW THE HELL IS SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENING??? Its un-heard-of for a car of its status. Something doesn't add up...
R34 GTR & MKIV Supra Turbo = BEST SPORTS CARS TO EVER WEAR THE "MADE IN JAPAN" TAGS!!! PERIOD!
1) If Nissan has incorporated a LC, didn't they thoroughly test it? I mean, did Nissan just decide to reprogram a LC and hope no one was going to find out about it?
2) I beleive Nissan knew that the LC would damage the trans somehow, (especially when dealers are making you sign waivers, and its written in the owners manual about voiding warranties), soooo...if this a "programmed" feature...which it is as the GR6 is computer controlled....where are the sensors restricting hard launches multiple times one after the other???? Exactly!
3) This is a PHUCKEN' Nurburgring developed/tested car....HOW THE HELL IS SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENING??? Its un-heard-of for a car of its status. Something doesn't add up...
R34 GTR & MKIV Supra Turbo = BEST SPORTS CARS TO EVER WEAR THE "MADE IN JAPAN" TAGS!!! PERIOD!
Any car made gives you the ability to break it if you try....
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The Z06/ZR1 can do both drag racing & circuit tracks without a problem.
The GTR needs a true manual transmission. It's alot more fun than a high-tech automatic without much of the issues.
Without launch control, they really don't have much to brag about to the typical consumer; sadly, most people don't know or care about lap times. They believe 0-60 is indicative of everything
The GTR needs a true manual transmission. It's alot more fun than a high-tech automatic without much of the issues.
Without launch control, they really don't have much to brag about to the typical consumer; sadly, most people don't know or care about lap times. They believe 0-60 is indicative of everything
True...yet, here are my questions:
1) If Nissan has incorporated a LC, didn't they thoroughly test it? I mean, did Nissan just decide to reprogram a LC and hope no one was going to find out about it?
2) I beleive Nissan knew that the LC would damage the trans somehow, (especially when dealers are making you sign waivers, and its written in the owners manual about voiding warranties), soooo...if this a "programmed" feature...which it is as the GR6 is computer controlled....where are the sensors restricting hard launches multiple times one after the other???? Exactly!
3) This is a PHUCKEN' Nurburgring developed/tested car....HOW THE HELL IS SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENING??? Its un-heard-of for a car of its status. Something doesn't add up...
R34 GTR & MKIV Supra Turbo = BEST SPORTS CARS TO EVER WEAR THE "MADE IN JAPAN" TAGS!!! PERIOD!
1) If Nissan has incorporated a LC, didn't they thoroughly test it? I mean, did Nissan just decide to reprogram a LC and hope no one was going to find out about it?
2) I beleive Nissan knew that the LC would damage the trans somehow, (especially when dealers are making you sign waivers, and its written in the owners manual about voiding warranties), soooo...if this a "programmed" feature...which it is as the GR6 is computer controlled....where are the sensors restricting hard launches multiple times one after the other???? Exactly!
3) This is a PHUCKEN' Nurburgring developed/tested car....HOW THE HELL IS SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENING??? Its un-heard-of for a car of its status. Something doesn't add up...
R34 GTR & MKIV Supra Turbo = BEST SPORTS CARS TO EVER WEAR THE "MADE IN JAPAN" TAGS!!! PERIOD!
^+1. Or any other car for that matter!!!
ive got close friends with both of them, the Z06 handles as good if not better than the GTR, and is much faster in a straight line also.
if ferarri can offer a LC with a similar transmission then theres no reason nissan shouldnt.
if ferarri can offer a LC with a similar transmission then theres no reason nissan shouldnt.
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U.S. spec cars typically have crippled launch control. This is true of BMW, Ferrari and now Nissan. Their euro counterparts however are allowed full use launch control.
This is mainly due to our lawsuit happy nature.
This is mainly due to our lawsuit happy nature.
