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Old 08-09-2011, 02:23 PM
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The time has come for a new top for my ZR, and I'm running across two different materials.

#1: OEM Black Twillweave Vinyl
#2: Black Stayfast Cloth

The Stayfast is about $70 more than the OEM Vinyl, but is it worth spending the extra money on? I mean, it's not a huge amount of money, but is there a great advantage of the Stayfast over the Twillweave?
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Originally Posted by Bullitt5339
The time has come for a new top for my ZR, and I'm running across two different materials.

#1: OEM Black Twillweave Vinyl
#2: Black Stayfast Cloth

The Stayfast is about $70 more than the OEM Vinyl, but is it worth spending the extra money on? I mean, it's not a huge amount of money, but is there a great advantage of the Stayfast over the Twillweave?
Do you have pics of each style?
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I am also interested in these choices.
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http://www.convertibletop.com/nissan...nvertible-top/

They are both listed on this page.
Old 08-10-2011, 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Bullitt5339
IMHO if you plan on keeping your ZR for any lengthy time go with the stayfast cloth (also known as canvas & mohair), if not go with the cheaper one.

Here's a couple more links....Good Luck!
http://www.autotopsdirect.com/category-s/3383.htm
http://www.topsonline.com/inner.html...make=61&dept=1

$525.00....http://www.autoberry.com/details.php...categories_id=

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Old 08-10-2011, 09:27 AM
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Thanks for the links, that'll save me even more money.
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Haartz Stayfast Cloth, German Sonnenland Canvas

whats the differences in these?
Old 08-12-2011, 09:17 AM
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Explanation from one of the websites on the different material.

"Pinpoint Vinyl: Pinpoint Vinyl is a material that was used originally on most American Cars in the Older models. it looks like grained plastic. Sailcloth: Sailcloth Vinyl is a material that has a little different texture than Pinpoint Vinyl top. Sailcloth Vinyl looks like grained plastic. Stayfast: Stayfast is specially made Fabric (Canvas) material for convertible tops. Stayfast Canvas looks similar to tent material. Stayfast is also very commonly used on replacement tops for European cars as a less expensive alternative to the Original German Canvas or Sonnendeck Canvas. German Canvas (Sonnenland): No description is needed. It is the Original German Canvas. Construction: A three-ply composite made of twill weave outer fabric, rubber inner layer and a dobby weave lining fabric. Original Equipment: VW New Beetle Convertible, Mercedes, Porsche, Saab , Volvo, BMW."
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Originally Posted by juanl1999
Explanation from one of the websites on the different material.

"Pinpoint Vinyl: Pinpoint Vinyl is a material that was used originally on most American Cars in the Older models. it looks like grained plastic. Sailcloth: Sailcloth Vinyl is a material that has a little different texture than Pinpoint Vinyl top. Sailcloth Vinyl looks like grained plastic. Stayfast: Stayfast is specially made Fabric (Canvas) material for convertible tops. Stayfast Canvas looks similar to tent material. Stayfast is also very commonly used on replacement tops for European cars as a less expensive alternative to the Original German Canvas or Sonnendeck Canvas. German Canvas (Sonnenland): No description is needed. It is the Original German Canvas. Construction: A three-ply composite made of twill weave outer fabric, rubber inner layer and a dobby weave lining fabric. Original Equipment: VW New Beetle Convertible, Mercedes, Porsche, Saab , Volvo, BMW."
Very good.
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just ordered the german one from a website should be here next week paying 300 for install by some pros
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Originally Posted by dudegetalife
just ordered the german one from a website should be here next week paying 300 for install by some pros

Can you post the link and also post some before & after pics when the job is done. How much did you pay?
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Originally Posted by sluggoZ
IMHO if you plan on keeping your ZR for any lengthy time go with the stayfast cloth (also known as canvas & mohair), if not go with the cheaper one.

Here's a couple more links....Good Luck!
http://www.autotopsdirect.com/category-s/3383.htm
http://www.topsonline.com/inner.html...make=61&dept=1

$525.00....http://www.autoberry.com/details.php...categories_id=
ordered from autoberry seems to be cheapest i've seen ever paid 755 shipped and paying installer 350 so right at 1100, if material is as good as they say it should last an easy 5-7 if not 10 years.
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Great....please keep us posted!
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Cloth tops are:
- More expensive
- Softer
- Easier to put up/down in colder ambient temperature.
- A "notch above" to those who recognize the difference between the two.
- Require more preventive maintenance (ie: keeping it clean to resist rain).

Vinyl tops are:
- Less expensive
- Less softer.
- Harder to put up/down in colder ambient temperature.
- Makes no difference to those who just see it as a convertible.
- Require less preventive maintenance re: waterproof, but must still be kept clean.
- Less resistance to staining (depending on colour).

I put in a new vinyl top myself yesterday and am very satisfied. I got the EZ-On Vinyl top on ebay for $455 and with self install made out about $800 cheaper so now I can use that money for Volks

Hope this helps!
Old 08-14-2011, 12:16 PM
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BTW, if you do install it yourself (which I highly recommend) there is a guide in these forums for it. Here is the link.

https://my350z.com/forum/350z-roadst...t-guide-5.html

Make sure to have a friend or two with you to help. Preferably that are mechanically inclined or good at figuring things out. Also, when you do this its better to do it in warmer weather and make sure you have clear skies for the day and the following. If not do what I did and pull it into a warehouse with good lighting and fans. If you have questions about anything feel free to send me a message.
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I also just ordered the German top. I figure I'm going to have this car for awhile I should give it something decent.
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Originally Posted by dudegetalife
ordered from autoberry seems to be cheapest i've seen ever paid 755 shipped and paying installer 350 so right at 1100, if material is as good as they say it should last an easy 5-7 if not 10 years.
who is doing your install for 350? let me know how it turns out. i need to replace my top also.

thanks
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Has anyone gotten their autoberry top in? If yes, have you gotten it installed? How was the fitment, how's it look, etc?
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Got my EZ on Top for $470 shipped to the house. Self installed so do it yourself with some friends and dont get ripped by installers.
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ended up getting the German canvas from autoberry.com
installed it couple days ago. it looks pretty good


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