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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 10:41 AM
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There's a link on the 370Z-Tech website that has an inteview with the 370Z designer who states the car will cost between 3,700,000 and 4,700,000 yen. In US dollars that's $37-48K. Do you still love the car? Sorry, I wouldn't pay that kind of money for it.
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 10:46 AM
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I love the interior, Car looks really good in black, but I'll wait for a finally judgement till I see it in person....but still not really feeling the head/tail lights
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by sq40
This is a pretty typical response from car owners when a new model comes out, replacing a beloved model. I don’t think there is a single car forum I have been on, in all of my years on the web where this doesn’t happen. Its just natural.
So here is the process that the 370Z, as all new models will follow from the Enthusiast community;


1) New model is announced, speculation and excitement begins.

2) Small details are leaked, these are picked apart with a fine tooth comb and expectations are laid.

3) First firm details or full disclosure of the new model is made, new owners, hold outs and die-hards reject it off hand, former owners look forward to it as good time to go back to the brand, most split their opinion 50/50, good-bad.

4) New model hits the street, a few show up on the board and people start to get excited, as modifications are made to the new cars, people start to take notice. 60/40, good-bad.

5) New model is out for 6mo-1yr, A large mix of new owners make the old cars seem dated, opinion starts a rapid shift, the old cars sell for less and the new becomes a higher demand item. Option shifts to 80/20m good-bad.

6) Old model seems like ancient history, excitement is gone for the old car, with nostalgia taking over, 95% of owner/potential buyers and forum members prefer the new car and are looking forward to the “next” version of the car.
LOL I agree 100%
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 10:54 AM
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I can't believe how many here compare the 350 Z and 370 Z strictly on the basis of the looks of the cars.

The fact is has 54 more HP, is wider and shorter plus is reputed to weigh 200 pounds less than my 2003 Z attracts me, so given the performance enhancements to be had, I could not care less about the looks of the car.

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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by sq40
This is a pretty typical response from car owners when a new model comes out, replacing a beloved model. I don’t think there is a single car forum I have been on, in all of my years on the web where this doesn’t happen. Its just natural.
So here is the process that the 370Z, as all new models will follow from the Enthusiast community;


1) New model is announced, speculation and excitement begins.

2) Small details are leaked, these are picked apart with a fine tooth comb and expectations are laid.

3) First firm details or full disclosure of the new model is made, new owners, hold outs and die-hards reject it off hand, former owners look forward to it as good time to go back to the brand, most split their opinion 50/50, good-bad.

4) New model hits the street, a few show up on the board and people start to get excited, as modifications are made to the new cars, people start to take notice. 60/40, good-bad.

5) New model is out for 6mo-1yr, A large mix of new owners make the old cars seem dated, opinion starts a rapid shift, the old cars sell for less and the new becomes a higher demand item. Option shifts to 80/20m good-bad.

6) Old model seems like ancient history, excitement is gone for the old car, with nostalgia taking over, 95% of owner/potential buyers and forum members prefer the new car and are looking forward to the “next” version of the car.
Well said...

Yup don't matter the make or model.. This always happens when a new car debuts.
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by bigdog1250
Check out the video for the Z in the new NFS:
http://www.nissannews.com/video/asse...60px&width=320
That link didn't work for me so I found the embed code:

<embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://www.nissannews.com/video/assets/videos/flvplayer.swf" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" flashvars="file=http://nissannews.com/video/assets/lowres/61/nfs_370z_hd_lg.flv&autostart=false&image=http://nissannews.com/video/assets/images/61/nfs_370z_hd_lg.jpg" height="260" width="320" >
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by cupcar
I can't believe how many here compare the 350 Z and 370 Z strictly on the basis of the looks of the cars.

The fact is has 54 more HP, is wider and shorter plus is reputed to weigh 200 pounds less than my 2003 Z attracts me, so given the performance enhancements to be had, I could not care less about the looks of the car.
I believe the looks/design is a critical component of a sports car. I think most of the people commented acknowledge(except for few guys) that 370 will be noticable leap in performance over 350. Besides the official performance specs hasn't been released yet so the center of discussion naturally is its looks.

I'm with you on the performance potential of the 370. Let's face it, 350Z in its stock form leaves a lot to be desired especially in handling.
With the new car's added power, shorter and stiffer chassis, and MOST IMPORTLY lighter weight(I hope what Nissan claims will be true), the 370 ought to be quite a performer at the track.
I'm willing to bet that with some proper tuning(20~30 more hp, great suspension setup, and even more shaved weight), this car will match the laptimes of GT-R at least on shorter race tracks.
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by cupcar
I can't believe how many here compare the 350 Z and 370 Z strictly on the basis of the looks of the cars.

The fact is has 54 more HP, is wider and shorter plus is reputed to weigh 200 pounds less than my 2003 Z attracts me, so given the performance enhancements to be had, I could not care less about the looks of the car.
With that line of reasoning, why not buy an Atom. That car is king of the track.
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by scrapser
With that line of reasoning, why not buy an Atom. That car is king of the track.
Can you buy one for the price of a Z?
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 350Zenophile
That link didn't work for me so I found the embed code:

<embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://www.nissannews.com/video/assets/videos/flvplayer.swf" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" flashvars="file=http://nissannews.com/video/assets/lowres/61/nfs_370z_hd_lg.flv&autostart=false&image=http://nissannews.com/video/assets/images/61/nfs_370z_hd_lg.jpg" height="260" width="320" >
Looks sweet! Notice it doesn't have the side skirt either - which I think makes the car look a bit distorted in the lighting that they took the pictures in.

The 370Z Roadster will most likely be a future upgrade for me!

~KK
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 11:21 AM
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Interior looks great although I wish that they could have integrated the 3 pods better, they just look sorta out of place (an afterthought) on this one. I actually like the fang headlights on it as well as on the Max, but the rear leaves alot to be desired!
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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i'd like to see the responses if the roles were reversed and the new design was replaced with the current design.

"oh god the lights?!"

"oh its so heavy"

"bumper turnsignals?!?!"

"waaaaaaaah"
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by cupcar
Can you buy one for the price of a Z?
The Atom 3 costs around $65K but with the 370Z costing as much as $48K, it's not much of a leap for someone who just wants a go-kart on steroids.
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by cupcar
I can't believe how many here compare the 350 Z and 370 Z strictly on the basis of the looks of the cars.

The fact is has 54 more HP, is wider and shorter plus is reputed to weigh 200 pounds less than my 2003 Z attracts me, so given the performance enhancements to be had, I could not care less about the looks of the car.
54hp more?????Are you counting up from the 287hp enging or 306hp HR?

BTW it would be nice to know which model Nissan is using as the basis of the 200lb less comment. The Z's weight fluctuates depending on trim. Would be nice if it was 200lbs lighter than the Base 350z which some have weighed
at less then 3200lbs...That would mean the Base 370z would be less than 3000lbs if the "200lb less" rumor is true....I highly doubt that but just something to think about...
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by cupcar
I can't believe how many here compare the 350 Z and 370 Z strictly on the basis of the looks of the cars.

The fact is has 54 more HP, is wider and shorter plus is reputed to weigh 200 pounds less than my 2003 Z attracts me, so given the performance enhancements to be had, I could not care less about the looks of the car.
So the the 370z has 360hp?
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by scrapser
The Atom 3 costs around $65K but with the 370Z costing as much as $48K, it's not much of a leap for someone who just wants a go-kart on steroids.
If the new Z is 48K then it is out of the picture anyway.
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 11:36 AM
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wow, i really like it. I think the headlights would look really nice blacked out. OEM bodyworks? Who cares!!, aftermarket will be taking care of that. The interior is also much better than the current Z

As far as I'm concern, the new gen Z is a winner.
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by cupcar
If the new Z is 48K then it is out of the picture anyway.
According to an interview with the designer, that will be the price of the high-end model. I thought from reading various forums it was going to be offered starting at $29.5K but that now seems like wishful thinking. The base range is reported to be $37K which is also pretty high.

I think Nissan has just shot themselves in the foot with a high priced, kinda sorta new Z car. This may be the end of the legend. We will see.
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by BlindFiring
i'd like to see the responses if the roles were reversed and the new design was replaced with the current design.

"oh god the lights?!"

"oh its so heavy"

"bumper turnsignals?!?!"

"waaaaaaaah"
Less power and smaller displacement?!
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 12:00 PM
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This car looks freaking awesome!
I'm not excited about that price though...
I hope you made that info. up or it's completely incorrect...
::crosses fingers::
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