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Old 01-17-2005 | 06:08 PM
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so i went to a local audio shop... I asked about component speakers for the front. They told me that if i dont amplify them, theres no need for components. He told me i should look into orions or PPI's. Any opinions?
Old 01-17-2005 | 10:38 PM
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I wouldn't get comps off HU power .. agree w/him there. HU power is just too weak .. its essentially 20-30w and you will most likely crank it and send clipped signals which are not good for speakers. Get power (more the merrier, as long as you are careful w/gains) and enjoy overhead for unclipped music

As for PPI or Orion .. uhm no thanks. I've had Utopias 3x now Waiting for my car to install DLS Iridium 3ways.
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hm, so i guess i should look into an amp also. In that case, im going to get the under strut box, and mount the amps nicely behind it, and go from there. thanks.
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Dave,

some people choose not to spend $700+ on thier front stage .... therefore PPI and Orion are a valid choice at thier lower price point. However, I would not choose them over the lower Focals, Bostons or some nice Kodas

NY 350Z ... definitely get a separate amplifier like Dave and your shop have stated.

What will you be using for a Head Unit? Is this under strut box the ebay one or Nazar's? What subwoofer and amp will go with that?

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Old 01-18-2005 | 09:15 AM
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right now i have apioneer head unit. I have not yet baught an under strut box, tho id like to buy one soon. Right now i just have a small box with an mtx sub and amp.
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Dude if u need streo stuff...i get it hooked up real cheap!!!!

All with receipts and warranties too!!!!
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tru. well im having someone build me a box, but ima do other stuff in the spring so ill keep you in mind.
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go high end and never go again lol
Old 01-23-2005 | 10:39 PM
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Originally posted by JimRHIT
Dave,

some people choose not to spend $700+ on thier front stage .... therefore PPI and Orion are a valid choice at thier lower price point. However, I would not choose them over the lower Focals, Bostons or some nice Kodas

NY 350Z ... definitely get a separate amplifier like Dave and your shop have stated.

What will you be using for a Head Unit? Is this under strut box the ebay one or Nazar's? What subwoofer and amp will go with that?

-jim
Jim, I agree that some people don't want to spend that much .. which is perfectly fine.

BUT! PPI & Orion still arent worthwhile choices, IMO. My main reason w/the comment about PPI/Orion is their decline in quality 'pre-Directed'. There's nothing wrong w/the products, but I feel like a lot of people are paying inflated prices due to the history rather than the present. The value just isn't there anymore.

For the 'lower' priced stuff, I'd rather go w/ the Kodas you mentioned, RE Comps, Alpine 177a/r's, CDT-CL/EFs, and there is this one guy in AZ who seems to have a ton of Aura MR62's which I keep fighting the urge to try out.

I have used/heard everything mentioned above except the Kodas & Auras, and currently have the RE & CDT CL's.

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go high end and never go again lol
^ I'm pretty much w/him. There is a limit to this, but it's mostly true. Do it right once & save yourself the trouble of continuously upgrading.

(Why focals 3x? Money -- profited each time. And BTW, bump that to 4x. 165w3 here now That puts me on 180W, 165w X2, and finally finally 3ways.)
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I say that and after this I prob wont ever put another stereo in another car again
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PPI is my vote
Old 01-29-2005 | 06:22 PM
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What kind of price range are you looking at?
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im lookin 100-200. i will spend more and would get components no problem, im was just told if i dont amplify them, its pointless.
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yeah dont bother with components if you arent going to amp them... orion used to be an awsome brand then directed bought them out and they went to ****.

The ppi amps are expensive but very nice.
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Go USAmps man.....they are $$$$$
But save up.....you will never have a problem...some of my USAmps are like 10 years old and still pupming(and i'm the 3rd owner)

Fight the urge....i've spent thousands replacing and upgrading...and finally learned...it's cheaper to pay for good stuff now than having to replace tweeters and such!
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