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Old 05-10-2005, 07:37 AM
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Default 5ch. Amp: Need Help. (Apline or Eclipse)

I just installed AVN 5435. Now I'm looking for new amp.
I'm looking for about 40-50 watts x 4 + 150-200 wattts x 1 (sub)
-4oms, RMS Power
I just want simple set up so I'm not looking for 2 amps system in my tiny Z.

So my choices are..
Eclipse PA5532 (http://www.eclipse-web.com/amp/pa5532.html)
Eclipse EA3532 (http://www.eclipse-web.com/amp/ea3532.html)
Alpine MRV-F450 (http://www.alpine-usa.com/)

Since I already have Eclipse unit, I like to buy Eclipse but I don't know anyone has Eclipse amp in their car and dont know it has any extra benefit adding Eclipse amp on Eclipse headunit (I know alpine has huge benefit adding their own amp on their headunit).

Can you guys share knowledge with me?

Thanks in advance!

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Old 05-10-2005, 07:58 AM
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Eclipse with Arc Audio amp is a perfect combination. Go with an Arc Audio XXK5150.

I'm running an Eclipse CD8454 with Arc Audio XXK5150. Perfrect combination.
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JL makes a 6Ch that can be bridged to 5.
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macalet01, i checked their site. i think they have good rms powers but cant find any price info. can you help me where i can find some price to compare?

350unces, all those 3 amps are about 300 or less on ebays. i love jl but those are huge size and expensive so its out of my range.
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Hey, remember that number I gave you for the AVN, call him!! As I said, he did my full system, Eclipse HU, Arc Audio amp, rainbow speakers. Just like Eclipse, online sales are not authorized hence why you cannot find prices online.
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JLAudio makes a 5 ch amp, i used to have it on my old system - it's the 500/1

Also extant, and audisen make goos multi channel amps
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I would ditch the rear fill and go with a 2 channel set up, and buy a four channel and bridge the rear two channels.


but thats me
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I have the Eclipse PA5532 and absolutly love it. It's pretty big so it may be a trick to get it into either of the compartments behind the seats if that's what you're thinking.
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Originally Posted by isugoo
macalet01, i checked their site. i think they have good rms powers but cant find any price info. can you help me where i can find some price to compare?

350unces, all those 3 amps are about 300 or less on ebays. i love jl but those are huge size and expensive so its out of my range.
How much do you want to spend ? The JL e6450 6ch amp on eBay is under $300. Its a great little amp and if you bridge two channels for the sub it should work great for you.
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amp budget is 330 under.
i never owned any types of car amp so i'm really newbie for this.
so if i buy 4 ch. amp. can i use its 2 ch. to amp up front speakers and use my headunit power (50max) to just fill up rear speakers and bridge 2ch from amp for the sub?

then i can save more money.
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yeah so the JL e6450 is great for you and within your budget (<300 on eBay), bridge two channels for the Sub and use the other 4 channels for the fronts and backs. If you go with a 4Ch then just skip the rear speakers. They are only for fill anyhow.

As far as using a 4ch and your HU it depends on the HU but I'd just skip the rear speakers instead.
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Originally Posted by Santacruzslick
I have the Eclipse PA5532 and absolutly love it. It's pretty big so it may be a trick to get it into either of the compartments behind the seats if that's what you're thinking.
so where did you put yours? can you show me pic if you can?
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Old 05-10-2005, 07:30 PM
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I have a really nice Pheonix Gold amp that i would be willing to sell, in stores right now for $579 I would sell it for 300 cause i have no use for it i dont want my Z to start having rattles.
Old 05-11-2005, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Ahsmo
I would ditch the rear fill and go with a 2 channel set up, and buy a four channel and bridge the rear two channels.


but thats me
^^yea that.
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Originally Posted by 03FIDDYZ
I have a really nice Pheonix Gold amp that i would be willing to sell, in stores right now for $579 I would sell it for 300 cause i have no use for it i dont want my Z to start having rattles.
which is it?


Originally Posted by stu46
^^yea that.
Old 05-11-2005, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by isugoo
so where did you put yours? can you show me pic if you can?
thanks.

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I got it from a local shop on discount because the next model year was coming out. I think I paid like $400 for it. I'll post a pic. when I get home. I have it sunk down in my spare tire well under glass. Only good place it would go without taking up room. LOL
Old 05-11-2005, 10:23 AM
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Any 5 channel amp stated other then Arc Audio 5150 or Boston GT50 is wrong. Most 5 channel amps suck - especially eclipse and Alpine - which sucks because both those make nice head units.
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Originally Posted by LS350Z
Any 5 channel amp stated other then Arc Audio 5150 or Boston GT50 is wrong. Most 5 channel amps suck - especially eclipse and Alpine - which sucks because both those make nice head units.
thats pretty harsh words. any more info to share with us to support your opinion? i'm a new on audio. tell me more please.
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Originally Posted by LS350Z
Any 5 channel amp stated other then Arc Audio 5150 or Boston GT50 is wrong. Most 5 channel amps suck - especially eclipse and Alpine - which sucks because both those make nice head units.


suck is a completely relative term

5 channels are a lot to cram into a tiny space such as the chasis of a alpine or eclipse or whatever.

Some corner has to be cut, be it in the rail caps, input caps, output transistors, input transistors....corners must be cut to fit all that stuff into the chasis

But eh.... good and suck are relative words. Phoenix gold amps are good to me. Jl amps suck. Tru amps are awsome

to others

pyle amps are the shizzzzzniiiiiit and they make my 15 inch volfenhag subs slam

anyway my commments
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Originally Posted by LS350Z
Any 5 channel amp stated other then Arc Audio 5150 or Boston GT50 is wrong. Most 5 channel amps suck - especially eclipse and Alpine - which sucks because both those make nice head units.
Nice way to bash a product without showing any support to your opinions.

Now everyone... LOL

I have to agree that the "smaller" eclipse 5ch. is not that great. I don't know the model # off the top of my head but the one I got and the "little brother" to it sound worlds different. It all depends on the music you like. My best suggestion would be to install all of your components except the amp. Then go to a local audio shop and buy your amp. there instead of online or whatever. May cost a bit more but you'll get a warranty and (most) shops will let you plug an amp in for a few mins. to test the sound. If they don't it's because they have no faith in their products. That's how I determined which amp. to get. All 4 or 5 shops I went to let me test out amps. and such before purchasing.


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