shortbus1981

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Ok, the stock manfacturer's alarm that came with my 04.....does it have ignition kill built into it?

KPierson

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No, but it has a transponder system which will prevent the motor from running without the proper key. With the alarm on you can turn the ignition on AND crank the car. The car may run for a few seconds but will quickly stall.

shortbus1981

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So essentailly it's an ignition kill. Without the proper key it wont go very far...correct? Would it be worthwhile to get an aftermarket alarm that has a true ignition kill?

KPierson

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I guess it depends on what you mean by 'true' ignition kill. The stock system cuts fuel if I remember right, but it might cut spark also.

Thinking about it, if the system prevents the car from running I think it would be considered an 'ignition kill.' I was thinking you meant a system that prevents the ignition from being turned on, like a starter kill (mechanically prevents the starter from getting power).

The stock security system has its share of weakpoints and drawbacks, but for an OEM security system its not that bad. The main things you will gain from an aftermarket alarm system is better remote range and more/better sensors, such as shock sensor and/or proximately sensor.

shortbus1981

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What are the "weakpoints" of the stock alarm?

BOOFER7

Are you looking for an education on how to steal Z's there noob?

KPierson

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Thieves can steal a G35/350Z using the same techniques people have been using to steal Maximas for the past five years. The system has a severe flaw that allows for disarming wihtout using the keyfob and the transponder system is fairly weak, when you know how to get around it.

shortbus1981

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Ahh, no smartass....I own one.

shortbus1981

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Hmm, then I think I will be getting an aftermarket alarm. I want my new toy to be as safe as possible. Thanks for the info.

KPierson

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Not to rain on your parade, but no car is EVER safe. Hotwiring cars and simply driving off with them is a thing of the past. Flat beds are where its at now! Try to find something with a GPS location built in and pray for the best!

shortbus1981

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That's true to an extent. I have some friends that have simply had their vehicles driven away. Maybe Lojack is the way to go. I may be a bit paranoid, but I dont live in the very best area of town.

KPierson

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Sadly enough, aftermarket alarms are designed more for protecting stuff IN the car, not necesarrily protecting the car. Starter kills are a joke, if you can hotwire a car you can bypass a starter kill in 2 seconds

MrGraphics

I've always felt that if someone really wants to get your stuff, they will. The only thing you can do is make them work for it. If they are given a choice between one they have to work for, and another that's easier, they'll go to that one.

In essence, your car is safe because others are less safe.

Security is all an illusion.

shortbus1981

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So might you have any type of advice as to what can help stop some theif from stealing my Z?

BOOFER7

Just checking. Smartass. I dont think it would be a good idea that the weak points in my cars security system be put out on the internet so it becomes common knowledge to anyone who cares to read it.

Dont you?

shortbus1981

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Its all good man. I was just givin ya a hard time.

Im just trying to find the best way to keep my new baby safe from dipsh!ts and hoodlums. I've busted my butt to be able to get this car and I want to keep it safe. Im sure you can understand and respect that.

KPierson

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There have been posts on other forums regarding this subject, its no a highly guarded secret and any 'professional' car thief will already know about the downsides to an OEM alarm.

OEM manufacturers have more to think about then aftermarket alarm companies. The last thing any Nissan dealership wants is a phone call from a customer saying the alarm is going off and there is NOTHING they can do to stop it!

Dream

Most of the people here have told you flat out: If someone wants your car, they're going to get it. No one cares about car alarms anymore, and most OEM anti-theft systems can be bypassed. Lojack doesn't stop people from jacking your car; it just helps the recovery. Take comfort in the fact that the OEM transponder system will stop someone who doesn't know how to bypass it.

If you absolutely must have an alarm, you might consider getting a two-way pager alarm so you can tell if someone has set off one of the sensors. However, that's only if you think you're capable of running out to your car in time to stop the theft AND protecting yourself if they get violent. Like you said above, you may also want to consider Lojack with the early warning system that lets you know when your car's been moved.