I'd love to hear your guys and gals comments on my ideas for my Z.
First off I'm not goign to be entering any audio competitions, I'm not going for a showy system. Just going for a nice crisp clean sounding system and trying to keep it as stock looking as possible. I listen to just about every type of music except country, anythign form acoustic to rap.

Now For some of the detail. I have the 03 model with options Bose systme installed. Good lord I pitty the person who paid extra for that. It's got no juice even though there are amps included. the clarity is jsut not there. And supposedly there is a ten inch sub right behind my back. I've heard a decent 6by9 put out more depth in bass.

Anywho my ideas is. To take out all stock speakers/amp/deck
Speakers...
Now I want the speakers to go back into stock speaker locations. Kicks of the door and right behind the seats. I think there are 6.5s and 6's. I'll have to confirm this before anything is done. So I get those 4 plus tweeter kit. and run them off a decent 4 channel amp. all amp will be pushed to the front of the trunkk space, right behind the speaker locations. (hard to get at and rarey used anyways)Probably either black or painted balck to blend in with balck carpet floor.

As for the sub.....
I like the stock location and want to keep my trunk. Unfortunatly the stock location is not sealed... Poor! So I want to get a custom box made for the stock location, and obviously get another amp to run this. I am not positive but i think the volume would be around one cubic foot. So i was thinking a nice seal enclosure with a 10 inch kicker... I have heard they hit quite hard and don;t need a big volume of air to do this.

Deck....
I haven;t decided on a deck yet. But the console has room for double din decks or single din with pocket. I was thinking touch screen. Clarion is comming out with a new one this month. Deck is important i knwo but It's the only thing I'm really undecided about my plans. Do i go touch screen, do i go single deck and put a screen in the cubby above, or do i just put a nice multi purpose deck with mp3 etc and leave it at that.

Keep in mind that i'm not spending my life saving on the system, I just am not impressed with what is in there currently. I am actuly looking at some barely used kenwood speakers and amp. for a portion of it. I knwo these are in mint condition so that is not a question. If you ahve any comments or experience with a Z or any of these parts. Let me know. I;d love to hear form ya. Also, need ot find a place to get a custom enclosure made, so if you have any leads for that. It woudl be much apprciated.

this is what i foudn good prices on
KAC-848 4/3/2 Channel Amp 600W
KFC-1787 6.5” Speakers 220W
KFC-P602 6” Component Speakers 150W



thanks for taking the time to read and any comments

 

forget kentucky friend chicken speakres :P jk honestly, you can get better for the price...

i can help you better if you can:

1. provide me with your overall goal in music

2. your max buget, i will be happy to point you towards the right direction

 

well first of all i never posted prices on those speakers, so i'm not sure how you know what I would be paying for them. And i thoguth i gave a reasonble goal in the first paragraph with...

First off I'm not goign to be entering any audio competitions, I'm not going for a showy system. Just going for a nice crisp clean sounding system and trying to keep it as stock looking as possible. I listen to just about every type of music except country, anythign form acoustic to rap. AS for price I know you guys like setitng a budget. But I decide as i'm going, depending on what i cna get for what price, how much custom work. I still have some unanswered questions so I can;t really give you a budget at hte moment.

 

sorry if i came off wrong, i have a decent amount of experience with speakers, and quite honestly, at no price range would i get the kenwood amps and sapreska nd subs, their HUs are fine, but nothing else...but if youa re saying you can get them for free...now thats a different story

here are some more details answers:

1. i am one of those poeple who think upgrade rear separrkes is a waste of money, so i would just get a nice set of components in the door, and just leave the rear stock running off the ehadunit, and just fade it forward, so the back is only provide a little sound.

2. stock location is fine if you can find someoen who can build you a good box...but you may have to pay some cash...a single 10 would serve you well...but a good fiberglass box may cost you around 2-300 if not more

3.since you dont want to spend a lot of cash, i would honestly say, just go wtih a cd/mp3 headunit, a mid line pioneer like hte 680 would do well. i would only spend the extra cash on the touch screen IF you want NAVI, i highly doubt you will be watching the tv all the time, not to mention its dangerous while driving. a lot of people who just get an in dash dvd playe with out navi, all tell me after a few weeks, the cool factor wears off, and they are left with a 1000 dollar cd player versus where they could have spend 700 bucks less and gotten a cd player thats just as good if not better sonically.

if you shop carefully, you should be able to get your stuff for quite cheap...

here is an example:

pioneer 680: 250ish
crystal ssx 6.5 comp set: 200 ish
avionixx 4 cahnnel amp, the bigger one: 250ish
image dyanmics id10: 150ish if not less
if you really want rear separs, crysatsl cxe 6.5 at around 75 bucks
wiring, rca, kit, harness etc: 100
there you go

 

no worries, i didnt take it wrong. I mean I want great sound, but i'm also not Moneybags Magoo. I mean the price ranges you suggested are not out of the picture.
I guess first have to decied what I want to do with head unit. and go from there.
both sets of speakers you suggested were 6.5's i thoguth 6 in the the back and 6.5 in the door... is that not correct?

 

[]V[]addog

Better budget for soundproofing, too. Interesting reading here:

http://www.sounddeadenershowdown.com/

I'm installing at least 80 sq. ft. of Damplifier, and something less than half that of Overkill, with my new system (Pioneer/JL/Infinity).

 

thanks man, great read,
i'l liek to here our plans aswell if your interested in sharing.
i'm a big JL fan

 

I'm assuming you have a fastback? If so you can find those under the strut enclosures on Ebay for a decent price. For a subwoofer its hard to beat the price of an Infinity reference sub. They aren't the best, but they are more than adequate for what you want. Oh, and the stock location is horrible for a subwoofer unless you own a roadster.

For speakers, look into the Morel Dotech line. Those are awesome!!! Midbass is excellent and they are fairly effcient when it comes to power. Plus they are fairly shallow so you won't run into any clearance problems.

Screw the rear speakers

As far as the headunit goes you cant go wrong with an Eclispe AVN-5435. It has mp3, dvd-video and navigation capabilities all bundeled into one nice neat unit.

Thats my 2 cent. Good luck with your system!

 

thanks ai'll take alook at those brands and ideas,
much appriciated.
i want the rear speakers too though. just preference.
and i know the stock location isn;t hta hot, but i want to enclose it.
or maybe one of those custom jobs that put a sub in the drivers side part fo the hatch. has to be super clean.

 

Hey. Quick note.. on the subwoofer part. If you are wanting to use the stock location you may want to do a 8" woofer instead of a 10" Doing a 8" w3 or somethign along those lines will enable to enclosure to look better in the stock part. A 10" the way it angles can not be to deep and goes from all the way at the top to all the way to the bottom. Makes for a very difficult box to build where as a 8" driver sound just as good in the same location, looks better because its not using the entire space, and should cost you less to get the box built.

wve built a 100 of these boxes at my shop so I know pretty well what works the best in that location.

 

If you are a JL fan, PM me.

I will try to set up a system for you with in your budget. I guarantee NO Disappointments.

Nazar

 

[]V[]addog,

My system is fairly low key, and I saved a few hundred bucks getting some of the electronics (slightly used) on eBay:

Pioneer Premier DEH-P860MP in AI NDK740 din
Pioneer GEX-P910XM XM radio/AN-91XM Antenna
JL 300/4 front/rear
JL 500/1 sub
Infinity Kappa 60.7 component front on MLG spacers
Infinity Kappa 62.7 coaxial rear
Infinity Perfect 10.1 subs (2) in ZEnclosure

Second Skin Damplifier and Overkill
Stinger Ultra - 12 AWG twisted-pair speaker wires
Audiobahn AC600 RCA - triple-shielded, twisted pair
Streetwires 4 AWG power, ground and fuse
Stinger HPM 4-8 AWG power/ground distribution
Metra harness adapter

The amps mount in the old sub-space, since the new subs are under the strut brace. I'm fabricating the amp rack from aluminum channel from onlinemetals.com, and the rack can be easily pulled along with the sub enclosure if I need to shed weight.

The speaker connections use Neutrik Speakons, and the power / ground has a quick disconnect (partsexpress.com). The RCA leads are clamped to another piece of aluminum channel, with bulkhead speakon connectors to the speaker wiring, so all the amp connections stay in one place.

I'm still waiting for a few bits to arrive, but now that the weather has turned, I should be able to finish up most of it over the next couple of weekends.

 

low key, that seems like pretty damn nice to me. That is probbaly more along the lines I'm looking. That might be low key for some. But I think that would rock. THough is still like my hearing.
nice set up man congrats.
thanks for all the tips guys

Nazar
I'm looking at the site now. I love those side magic boxes. I'm really feelin them. Anychance yo umake them for both sides?

 

Believe me, Unless you are really bass hungry one will do the job.
BTW If you want to go with 300/4 and 500/1 Combo that is also very nice combo.

 

who pricey are those enclosures? the side mounting ones?
what is there volume?

 

http://www.wickedcas.com/store/produ...bb48e895dcf5ca

You got mail.

 

I think it ought to work. It's not huge power, the amps are hidden, the HU isn't touchy feely, the drivers are ... decent, at least: low key.

But: system noise is very low, with high voltage pre outs, low-gain settings on the amps, short runs of shielded, twisted wires. Distortion figures are also quite good, and the drivers meet or exceed the amp specs, so everything will operate well within its ratings, and JL amps have flexible crossovers, so mids and highs can be protected appropriately. The HU has 13-band EQ and time-compensation, with auto-EQ and BBE processing, as well as its own crossovers, 24-bit Burr-Brown DACs, stuff. Not flashy for consumer-grade, but not bad, either. I can work with it.

Un-low key would have glassed in kicks with Focals, glassed JL subs and a 1000/1 amp behind them. And a 2-din touchsceen, hard-disk based HU, maybe, so I could stop hauling CDs around. But that's all a few grand more, and I'm thinking I'd rather have a ProCharger first....

 

.5 cubic feet, is that enough...

 

OH YA, PROVEN.

 

i trust ya


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