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Old May 12, 2006 | 12:01 AM
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Question why MB QUART QSD 216 so expensive?

list price: $1500. What is the reason for the high price?
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Old May 12, 2006 | 12:03 AM
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list price: $1500. What is the reason for the high price?
$1500?!?!?! Are you joking? Thats just sick.
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Old May 12, 2006 | 10:28 AM
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Well .... off the top of my head
1) Cast woofer basket
2) Ti Powdercoated cone
3) Neo Motor
4) Alum Heatsinking in the XO
5) Alum Tweeter basket
6) Ti Dome
7) Hand Assembled somewhere more expensive than China
8) They sound phenomenal!
9) Because they know people will pay for it.


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Old May 12, 2006 | 10:39 AM
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Because MB Quart is a german engineered speaker company that has many many sucessful deisgns that have been in cars that have won countless world championships. This is their flashship speaker line and they do not care how much they cost to build them. They build them the best they can and know if you are serious about buying them you wont be making a post like this and fork over the cash because great audio costs money.
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Old May 12, 2006 | 10:44 AM
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Wow ... thanks for that worthless post ... nice attack on a guys just asking a question. Try and throw out a few more facts next time instead of a rude statement like this.

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Old May 12, 2006 | 10:46 AM
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JUST FYI...

MB Quart works on maybe 60% markup.

These speakers to employees are right under the $450 mark.

Good speakers, smooth compared to the usually harsh mb quart lineup. I like them but they lack detail compared to my DLS setup.

ravi
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Old May 12, 2006 | 11:19 AM
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I have successfully competed with them for years, they are one of the VERY BEST speaker sets in existence for a car system. Nearly Flawless if installed Correctly and backed up with the appropriate electronics.

Paying $1500 will get you a full warranty from an authorized dealer. Most people purchase them from reputable shops for $600 to $800.

NOTE: There is a grey market, so buyer beware. I would say 99% of people that don't like the QSD's purchased a counterfeit product. Buying from an authorized dealer is the only way to be sure.

THEY ARE WORTH EVERY PENNY.

PM me if you want details on how to set them up right.
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Old May 12, 2006 | 11:22 AM
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though i personally dislike the way mbq sound, they are a well made speaker...

and 1500 dollars for the top of the line speaker from a reputable company isnt all that expensive:

compare:

soon to be out dls nobelium 3 ways at well above 1500

top of the line avi bsms at close to 2k

best morels, focals,

not to mention the best rainbows at 7-8k retail lol

b
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Old May 12, 2006 | 11:50 AM
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Bubble you should talk to Shine about making speakers....
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Old May 12, 2006 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jdohman
know if you are serious about buying them you wont be making a post like this and fork over the cash because great audio costs money.
shiet..i'm a poor..how can i fork out that much of money? lolz
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Old May 12, 2006 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by GQ 350z
JUST FYI...

MB Quart works on maybe 60% markup.

These speakers to employees are right under the $450 mark.

Good speakers, smooth compared to the usually harsh mb quart lineup. I like them but they lack detail compared to my DLS setup.

ravi
true. Ebay sell from $450 to $500 max.
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Old May 12, 2006 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JimRHIT
Well .... off the top of my head
1) Cast woofer basket
2) Ti Powdercoated cone
3) Neo Motor
4) Alum Heatsinking in the XO
5) Alum Tweeter basket
6) Ti Dome
7) Hand Assembled somewhere more expensive than China
8) They sound phenomenal!
9) Because they know people will pay for it.


Jim (knows)
I think #9 ought to be at the top of your list.

Have a look, or better yet, have a listen to a home theater sub-woofer like the SV Sound PB-12 "ultra" sub-woofer for a few hundred dollars less than that speaker driver alone and tell me what you hear.
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Old May 12, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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I am good friends with Deon Bearden as well as Tom V ... Deon (my old roommate) being the main contributor the the dB-series woofers SVS is a phenomenal company, offering great products at great prices .. but I assure you, they are not working on the same 5x margins than Klipsch, Pioneer and other places I have worked are.

In all honesty though, a low-distortion subwoofer is "easy" to design becase you are for all intents and purposes always operating in the pistonic range of that transducer. Tame the inductive rise, minimize drive and suspension non-linearities, and keep that port noise down .... bam, you have a KILLER system.


Bubble,
MB isn't marketing at you ... this is a Halo product ... much like a Ford GT or Z06 .. money well spent in marketing and selling these (agued by some as the best 2-way comps bar-none). It a trickle-down effect into the sales of the lesser models in that they hopefully have some inherent "Genetics" of the high-end line.
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Originally Posted by jdohman
Because MB Quart is a german engineered speaker company that has many many sucessful deisgns that have been in cars that have won countless world championships. This is their flashship speaker line and they do not care how much they cost to build them. They build them the best they can and know if you are serious about buying them you wont be making a post like this and fork over the cash because great audio costs money.

Damn...people on these forums are hostile....I just traded my Mini and the forums there were so different, people were much nicer than some people here, I know there are some good souls in here, and also I'm new here but hostility is rampant here...sorry....just my .02 cents:
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Old May 12, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by minispider
Damn...people on these forums are hostile....I just traded my Mini and the forums there were so different, people were much nicer than some people here, I know there are some good souls in here, and also I'm new here but hostility is rampant here...sorry....just my .02 cents:
No doubt Mini ... there are tons of good people her ewith extensive knowledge of all aspects of Z enhancement ... feel it out and stay a while ... you will weed out the bad seeds and find out what to pay attention to and what to ignore.

Welcome and congrats on your new Z!
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Old May 12, 2006 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JimRHIT
No doubt Mini ... there are tons of good people her ewith extensive knowledge of all aspects of Z enhancement ... feel it out and stay a while ... you will weed out the bad seeds and find out what to pay attention to and what to ignore.

Welcome and congrats on your new Z!


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thanks Jim
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What is not mentioned is that they have not been a German company for a while now. Rockford Fosagate purchased them a few years ago and Maxxsonics purchased them last year. If I am not mistaken they are being made somewhere in Asia now.
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Old May 12, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by THEDUKE
What is not mentioned is that they have not been a German company for a while now. Rockford Fosagate purchased them a few years ago and Maxxsonics purchased them last year. If I am not mistaken they are being made somewhere in Asia now.
yup they are owned by maxxsonics now
$1500 though
that is a wee bit too much
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Old May 12, 2006 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JimRHIT
Bubble,
MB isn't marketing at you ... this is a Halo product ... much like a Ford GT or Z06 .. money well spent in marketing and selling these (agued by some as the best 2-way comps bar-none). It a trickle-down effect into the sales of the lesser models in that they hopefully have some inherent "Genetics" of the high-end line.
actually, $400 to $500 is not that bad since JL audio and Diamond already in the $350 range.
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Old May 12, 2006 | 05:37 PM
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As stated above .. these are low volume comp sets (and quite exclusive) .. ebay is not the place to find anything other than some grey market knock-offs or rejects .... caveat emptor my friend
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