Sound Quality. Running 2 Different Sized Woofers..
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Sound Quality. Running 2 Different Sized Woofers..
I'm currently running one 12' sub, sealed, in the spare tire well. I'd like to add one 10' sub under the strut. I understand that adding another 12 would asthetically look better, but I do not wish to redesign my current enclosure or design a new one to accomodate two 12's. What I'd like to do is add an "under the strut" enclosure with one 10'. Of course it would be the same brand as well as power handling capability. Both subs would be Fosgate T1's.
1. Does anyone know how this will effect my sound quality?
2. Will there be a noticable difference in bass quality/output? If so, will it only effect certain freq ranges?
Thanks for the input.
1. Does anyone know how this will effect my sound quality?
2. Will there be a noticable difference in bass quality/output? If so, will it only effect certain freq ranges?
Thanks for the input.
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Originally Posted by savvy
whether it does or if you can hear any difference is another story
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use a different Xover point, so the 10 can handle the tight drums better. make the crossover for the 12 inch sub to ONLY handle the lowest range of bass, should be fine if you have it proffesionally tunned
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Originally Posted by sean1967
use a different Xover point, so the 10 can handle the tight drums better. make the crossover for the 12 inch sub to ONLY handle the lowest range of bass, should be fine if you have it proffesionally tunned
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Originally Posted by vo7848
I'm currently running one 12' sub, sealed, in the spare tire well. I'd like to add one 10' sub under the strut. I understand that adding another 12 would asthetically look better, but I do not wish to redesign my current enclosure or design a new one to accomodate two 12's. What I'd like to do is add an "under the strut" enclosure with one 10'. Of course it would be the same brand as well as power handling capability. Both subs would be Fosgate T1's.
1. Does anyone know how this will effect my sound quality?
2. Will there be a noticable difference in bass quality/output? If so, will it only effect certain freq ranges?
Thanks for the input.
1. Does anyone know how this will effect my sound quality?
2. Will there be a noticable difference in bass quality/output? If so, will it only effect certain freq ranges?
Thanks for the input.
you can of course try it
IMO same sub size is better than mixing
your sealed right
i would consider buying a new T2 12" dual 2 and run at 1ohm ported not sealed
i think this would make deeper ,and louder bass, than your current 1 sealed t1 12 ,and 1 t1 10 sealed you wanted to add
re-design IMO
final result will be better
what amp are you using on lows
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Originally Posted by savvy
theoretically the 10 should hit tighter and hit some higher tones than the 12....whether it does or if you can hear any difference is another story
IMO 10's are more mid bass and do better at 45-60 hertz
IMO the 12's will sound way deeper and louder from 35-45 hertz
box tuning , music preferances play a part , also resonant frequency of the car as well
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Originally Posted by 350zspl
IMO same sub size is better than mixing
your sealed right
i would consider buying a new T2 12" dual 2 and run at 1ohm ported not sealed
i think this would make deeper ,and louder bass, than your current 1 sealed t1 12 ,and 1 t1 10 sealed you wanted to add
what amp are you using on lows
your sealed right
i would consider buying a new T2 12" dual 2 and run at 1ohm ported not sealed
i think this would make deeper ,and louder bass, than your current 1 sealed t1 12 ,and 1 t1 10 sealed you wanted to add
what amp are you using on lows
2.I'm currently running the Dual 2ohm T1, but at a 4ohm load vs. 1 ohm. My Fosgate P8004(I believe) is incapable of stability @ 1 ohm. I can run 800watts bridged @ 4ohms or run 2 channels equally. The bench test on the amp rated it @ 941 watts RMS @ 4ohms, so I'm figuring I have a bit more to play with.
3. I aggree with you that a ported enclosure would accomodate my needs more, it's just that I'm not willing to give up the required air space to accomodate a large ported enclosure. With my current set up, I'd only be able to fit a 10' sub under the strut. With my new false floor, I'd only be able to fit an enclosure faceplate, capable of housing a 10' sub, under the strut.
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Originally Posted by 350zspl
IMO 10's are more mid bass and do better at 45-60 hertz
IMO the 12's will sound way deeper and louder from 35-45 hertz
box tuning , music preferances play a part , also resonant frequency of the car as well
IMO the 12's will sound way deeper and louder from 35-45 hertz
box tuning , music preferances play a part , also resonant frequency of the car as well
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Originally Posted by vo7848
1. Correct, I am running a sealed enclosure.
2.I'm currently running the Dual 2ohm T1, but at a 4ohm load vs. 1 ohm. My Fosgate P8004(I believe) is incapable of stability @ 1 ohm. I can run 800watts bridged @ 4ohms or run 2 channels equally. The bench test on the amp rated it @ 941 watts RMS @ 4ohms, so I'm figuring I have a bit more to play with.
3. I aggree with you that a ported enclosure would accomodate my needs more, it's just that I'm not willing to give up the required air space to accomodate a large ported enclosure. With my current set up, I'd only be able to fit a 10' sub under the strut. With my new false floor, I'd only be able to fit an enclosure faceplate, capable of housing a 10' sub, under the strut.
2.I'm currently running the Dual 2ohm T1, but at a 4ohm load vs. 1 ohm. My Fosgate P8004(I believe) is incapable of stability @ 1 ohm. I can run 800watts bridged @ 4ohms or run 2 channels equally. The bench test on the amp rated it @ 941 watts RMS @ 4ohms, so I'm figuring I have a bit more to play with.
3. I aggree with you that a ported enclosure would accomodate my needs more, it's just that I'm not willing to give up the required air space to accomodate a large ported enclosure. With my current set up, I'd only be able to fit a 10' sub under the strut. With my new false floor, I'd only be able to fit an enclosure faceplate, capable of housing a 10' sub, under the strut.
your punch p8004 is NOT 1 ohm stable , 2 ohm yes
i have a 2005 punch p8004 for sale , along with 2 each punch P6001bd for sale as well
all punch amps are 2 or 4 ohm stable
power series are 1 or 2 ohm stable
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Originally Posted by 350zspl
all punch amps are 2 or 4 ohm stable
power series are 1 or 2 ohm stable
power series are 1 or 2 ohm stable
200 W x 2 @ 4 Ohms RMS
400 W x 2 @ 2 Ohms RMS
800 W x 1 @ 4 Ohms bridged RMS
400 W x 2 @ 2 Ohms RMS
800 W x 1 @ 4 Ohms bridged RMS
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please do not fire one sub up and one sub back with different sizes. You will be doing more harm then good. Being the fact that you have different airspace between the boxes with different sizes your subs will most likely be hitting at different times and the sound waves will be canceling each other out.
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Honestly, Running two different drivers won't be Noticable for about 80% of the folks that just blast the bass.
If you have an ear for SQ and REALLY want the best sound, Either Stick with one Driver OR run the 12 for the lowest frequencies and the 10 for the higher freqencies and put a 24db slope between the two. THere will still be some issues on getting the subs to "dissapear".
The key to sub base is NEVER HEARING THEM. You should only Feel 90% of it and the other 10% should appear to come from the windshield.
If you have an ear for SQ and REALLY want the best sound, Either Stick with one Driver OR run the 12 for the lowest frequencies and the 10 for the higher freqencies and put a 24db slope between the two. THere will still be some issues on getting the subs to "dissapear".
The key to sub base is NEVER HEARING THEM. You should only Feel 90% of it and the other 10% should appear to come from the windshield.
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AND I MIGHT ADD..
Unless you are going for some SPL numbers, I have never seen a system that required any more than 1, single 10" or 12" driver to have the perfect "SQ Perfect" Sub Bass.
(My Screen Name is SQ40, Guess what the SQ means..)
Unless you are going for some SPL numbers, I have never seen a system that required any more than 1, single 10" or 12" driver to have the perfect "SQ Perfect" Sub Bass.
(My Screen Name is SQ40, Guess what the SQ means..)
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Originally Posted by jdohman
show quality?
anyone can say sq but that doesnt mean they know what they are talking about
anyone can say sq but that doesnt mean they know what they are talking about
Now, Instead of getting in a pissing match over who has what and who has a better ear, lets try to help the OP out a bit.
What do you say?
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Originally Posted by sq40
My Little Friend here in my living room says I know a thing or two about SQ, What have you got? (That says WORLD Champion on there in case your eye sight is bad..)
Now, Instead of getting in a pissing match over who has what and who has a better ear, lets try to help the OP out a bit.
What do you say?
Now, Instead of getting in a pissing match over who has what and who has a better ear, lets try to help the OP out a bit.
What do you say?
wasnt trying to **** in your wheaties Just giving you a hard time and I allready think we told the guy what he didnt want to hear so surely a little fun cant hurt