Some of you may already have noticed, some may not...but due to the fact that pioneer is pretty much out of Z1s, the Z1 will be unavailable until the Z2 is released, whcih may not be until march or april (god hopes sooner)

so if any of you are looking forward to getting on within the next few months, try to find one ASAP...

even now they are very hard to find, every authorized source retail or online (crutchfield), is out is most likely will not be getting anymore...

so expect to pay more, and quite a bit more even for online Z1s...i wouldnt be suprised that in a few weeks, they will go for well over 2k on ebay...

just a heads up to you guys even i had to pay way over dealer cost for one just recently...

so if you wanna stay below 2k, get it now, or may have to pay 2.5k or something in the near future..

a very strange situation indeed...

b

p.s. i cant be sure but i believe the D2 is in the same situation

 

Score a point on the board for me for getting mine for $1800 3 weeks ago.

*Awaits software upgrade to make mine a z2*

 

Crap. I was just looking for one online. Whats the difference between the Z1 and the Z2 going to be? Is it worth waiting for?

also, is there a dash kit that will fit this unit?

 

Wow ... Bing you are right. I can't even get one ... and that is never the case. I'll have my hands on the Z2 in less than 2 months "apparently".

I am actually switching out to a 880PRS for a new 3-way front setup, so no worries ... I'll just be lost a lot! ha

 

The diff is some new graphics and a "smart" mapping system. The Z1 is software upgradeable for a small price.

 

I heard the Z1 's sound quality isn't that good! Does it have pre outs??? What voltage?

 

Seems like there is a supply of Pioneer Avic-Z1's on eBay. A lot are probably refurbished units (...so I wonder...). --Spike

 

Refurb = return to store/reseller from customer with "problems" ...basically someone didn't want it and says it doesnt work. So they cannot sell it as an open box buy, rather they return it to a manufacturer.

The AVIC line is very reliable.

SQ is okay ... very little control, eq, etc ... but a simple DEQ or something can make everything just fine.

 

I notice that there is a lot more refurbished AVIC units than Eclipse. Not sure what that means. Maybe Pioneer outsells Eclipse? Not flaming, or arguing with what you said, just wondering why there are so many refurbished AVIC's?

--Spike

 

Yeah pioneer is actually being smart this year and cutting production before ces so they do not get stuck with a bunch of z1's that they then have to cut cost on to sell to the dealers.

I know we are pretty much out of new ones nation wide at tweeter and the D2's are starting to wear thin as well.

 

Because the D3 is coming out in March!

 

Come demo my system and tell me if you think the SQ isn't good

 

Doesn't mean you couldn't benefit from an Audio Control DQX

 

Well wtf dom?

 

can't wait till the z2 comes out

 

thank god for best buy manager discount 49%off =)

 

Prove that with a reciept on an AVIC unit (any of them).

The AVIC line does not carry the same markup that other HUs and accessories do.

 

best buy doesnt carry the Z1 i thought?

 

Correct, they don't.

 

Z2 only has upgraded the graphics --dipalys buildings etc. I wish they had added Ipod direct control like on the D3