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Old 04-23-2007, 10:57 AM
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I have 1 DVC 2 ohm Orion Subwoofer connected in paralle, connected to a bridged Kenwood Mono 1 ohm Stable amp. I hits hard but after 2 min's the amp cuts out, what have i done wrong????
Possible Problems are as Follows:
the Speaker wires are 12 G?
I do not have a Cap installed?
OEM battery?

Old 04-23-2007, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Aeleven
I have 1 DVC 2 ohm Orion Subwoofer connected in paralle, connected to a bridged Kenwood Mono 1 ohm Stable amp. I hits hard but after 2 min's the amp cuts out, what have i done wrong????
Possible Problems are as Follows:
the Speaker wires are 12 G?
I do not have a Cap installed?
OEM battery?


you ran this sub with this amp this way before

or 1st time wiring up this way
Old 04-23-2007, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 350zspl
you ran this sub with this amp this way before

or 1st time wiring up this way
Yes the other amp was wired this way, the Previous kenwood amp was heating up , cause it wasnt mono stable.
Before the DVC speaker i had 1 4ohm 10" connected bridged to a Previous kenwood amp .

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Originally Posted by Aeleven
Yes the other amp was wired this way, the Previous kenwood amp was heating up , cause it wasnt mono stable.
Before the DVC speaker i had 1 4ohm 10" connected bridged to a Previous kenwood amp .
i am confused

the old amp is a 2 channel
the new amp is a mono

the old sub was svc 4 ohm
the new sub is dvc 2 ohm

do i understand you
Old 04-23-2007, 11:26 AM
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yes that is correct. when i went to a 2ohm DVC the amp would heat up. Now that i have a Mono Stable amp it cuts out after a little bit.

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I'm not sure why you really want to run 1ohm loads since your amp will heat up quicker. It's probably cutting out from overheating, so you'll need better ventilation.

Just wire the coils up in series (4ohm effective). It sounds just as good since you don't really need hundreds of watts puncturing your ear drum.

I'm not sure what you mean by mono stable. Are you talking about a mono block amp or a 1 ohm stable amp?
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Originally Posted by Aeleven
yes that is correct. when i went to a 2ohm DVC the amp would heat up. Now that i have a Mono Stable amp it cuts out after a little bit.

your kenwood mono amp is one channel
and it should have 2 speaker leads off the amp

you box has 1 single 12" dvc 2 ohm sub

your box should have 1 speaker wire terminal

you should soder 2 negative leeds from the negative speaker terminal inside the box

you should soder 2 positive leads from the positive speaker terminal inside the box


using 1 set off speaker leads from amp they should hook up to the one speaker wire terminal on box on the outside input


inside the box hook both negative leads one negative lead from speaker terminal in box to each negative lead on each voice coil on sub negative post

and inside box hook up from the positive speaker box terminal lead one wire to each positive terminal on sub


this should bring you to one ohm
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you keep saying your amp is mono stable

i think your amp is 4 ohm and 2 ohm stable my GUESS is it is not 1 ohm stable
Old 04-23-2007, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 350zspl
your kenwood mono amp is one channel
and it should have 2 speaker leads off the amp

you box has 1 single 12" dvc 2 ohm sub

your box should have 1 speaker wire terminal

you should soder 2 negative leeds from the negative speaker terminal inside the box

you should soder 2 positive leads from the positive speaker terminal inside the box


using 1 set off speaker leads from amp they should hook up to the one speaker wire terminal on box on the outside input


inside the box hook both negative leads one negative lead from speaker terminal in box to each negative lead on each voice coil on sub negative post

and inside box hook up from the positive speaker box terminal lead one wire to each positive terminal on sub


this should bring you to one ohm

Im almost positive that I configured that way i'll double check.
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Originally Posted by Aeleven
Im almost positive that I configured that way i'll double check.
just check your connects


what is the model kenwood let me see if 1 ohm stabel
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Originally Posted by 350zspl
you keep saying your amp is mono stable

i think your amp is 4 ohm and 2 ohm stable my GUESS is it is not 1 ohm stable

I would agree here. Could also be that your amp sucks, your sub certainly does. No offense
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Originally Posted by 350zspl
you keep saying your amp is mono stable

i think your amp is 4 ohm and 2 ohm stable my GUESS is it is not 1 ohm stable
This is my AMP.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1166840602693

This is my Woofer.
http://www.orioncaraudio.com/Product...?ProductID=516
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That amplifier is not 1 Ohm stable, that is your porblem.
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well right there it says on amp specs

4 ohm and 2 ohm stable

does not list 1 ohm cause it aint stable at that load

so hook up amp to box like i said


now inside box you have 2 neg and 2 pos leads off of speaker box terminal


cut 1/2" off 1 neg lead and 1/2" off one pos lead so no copper is exposed wrap these cut ends seperately with electric tape than together with electric tape



no take your existing leads inside box 1 each neg and 1 each pos



hook up the neg lead to one voice coil neg post on sub

hook up the pos lead to the one OPPOSITE voice coil pos post on sub


now take a 6" to 10" piece of speaker wire of the same guage as the speaker wire inside box which should be 10 or 8 guage and run a jumper from the pos and neg posts that are left and should be on opposite voice coils


this should bring you to 4 ohm the load


peace

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You cannot achieve a 2Ohm load using a DVC 2Ohm woofer. You only can get 4Ohm if wired in series and 1 Ohm if wired in paralel. You have the wrong woofer/amp combination
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Originally Posted by 350zspl
well right there it says on amp specs

4 ohm and 2 ohm stable

does not list 1 ohm cause it aint stable at that load

so hook up amp to box like i said


now inside box you have 2 neg and 2 pos leads off of speaker box terminal


cut 1/2" off 1 neg lead and 1/2" off one pos lead so no copper is exposed wrap these cut ends seperately with electric tape than together with electric tape



no take your existing leads inside box 1 each neg and 1 each pos



hook up the neg lead to one voice coil neg post on sub

hook up the pos lead to the one OPPOSITE voice coil pos post on sub


now take a 6" to 10" piece of speaker wire of the same guage as the speaker wire inside box which should be 10 or 8 guage and run a jumper from the pos and neg posts that are left and should be on opposite voice coils


this should bring you to 2 ohms the lowest load that your set up can do


peace
I checked my connections and found out that one of the leads coming from the speaker vibrated off a little bit and wasnt making good contact, i tighten it and now is hitting harder than ever.
Old 04-23-2007, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by THEDUKE
That amplifier is not 1 Ohm stable, that is your porblem.
1 Ohm Stable =Yes
Old 04-23-2007, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Fluid1
I would agree here. Could also be that your amp sucks, your sub certainly does. No offense
Orion speakers have always kicked a$$, Kenwood make really good amps too.

What do you recomend amp and speaker wise.
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Originally Posted by Aeleven
1 Ohm Stable =Yes
I hate to break this to you, but the information on Best Buy website is incorrect. That amplifier is not 1ohm stable. Trust me I would know.
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Originally Posted by THEDUKE
You cannot achieve a 2Ohm load using a DVC 2Ohm woofer. You only can get 4Ohm if wired in series and 1 Ohm if wired in paralel. You have the wrong woofer/amp combination
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