Is it just me, or does the BOSE Bass absolutely blow...
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I know whatcha mean by the stock Bose system blowing. Im definitely getting rid of all the speakers and HU and replacing them with Alpine components.
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Well I'm beginning to wonder if my bose sub is blown because I really don't hear a difference with or without it... I don't really need anything extreme - just a decent bass. Could I just buy an economy amp + bass and install it fine with the rest of the OEM bose setup?
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For a really easy budget add-on package that won't overwhelm the factory Bose mids/highs, but will add some nice depth to the bottom end:
Kenwood amp with 2 10" subs package: $170 (amp has speaker level inputs)
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-JD2eg8N...250&I=113PW510
Zenclosures dual 10" under strut enclosure: $140
http://cgi.ebay.com/Nissan-350z-Cust...QQcmdZViewItem
Polyfil: $13
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-JD2eg8N...lyfil&i=027808
8awg amp wiring kit: $40 (you won't need the rca patch cable, but will need speaker wire)
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-x3h2Vnf...search=amp+kit
Grand total $363
Kenwood amp with 2 10" subs package: $170 (amp has speaker level inputs)
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-JD2eg8N...250&I=113PW510
Zenclosures dual 10" under strut enclosure: $140
http://cgi.ebay.com/Nissan-350z-Cust...QQcmdZViewItem
Polyfil: $13
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-JD2eg8N...lyfil&i=027808
8awg amp wiring kit: $40 (you won't need the rca patch cable, but will need speaker wire)
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-x3h2Vnf...search=amp+kit
Grand total $363
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I listen to a lot of piano with heavy bass and it just gets murdered with the bose bass... I don't need anything super loud, I just want to hear my bass undertones. What I'd really like to do is get a ZEnclosure box, mid-range amp + bass and put them in it.
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streetOC192 read my mind - thanks for the links.
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streetOC192 read my mind - thanks for the links.
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Originally Posted by Lawy'dU
how loud do you need your music? Are you guys a bunch of those annoying guys that make their cars sound like aluminum cans due to you weird rap music? lol. No offense but you only look cool to yourself when doing that lol.
when i had my diamond audio comps and ID Max sub in my car.. i would get compliments at the drive through because you could actually hear my mids, highs and lows .. not just a vibrating trunk.
A good system setup.. you can play it at low volume and still get all 3 to sound perfectly well.. a measure of a good system is to have the volume really low and still hear detailed accurate bass
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Originally Posted by TenTilFour
Well I'm beginning to wonder if my bose sub is blown because I really don't hear a difference with or without it... I don't really need anything extreme - just a decent bass. Could I just buy an economy amp + bass and install it fine with the rest of the OEM bose setup?
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Originally Posted by doug
its not blown.. its just crap.. the 6x9's in my Jeep hits harder than my Bose Sub did.
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Originally Posted by StreetOC192
LOL, don't knock it, properly installed 6x9's can thow out some bump!!!! They may not be sonically correct, but they can bump.
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Speaking of 6x9s, back in the day I had some JBL pro audio 3-ways. 5 lbs of magnets in an aluminum frame. These things hit harder than a pissed-off stepmom :0 To date some of the best speakers I've heard.
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All I needed to do with the Bose system to get more bass was to replace the stock Bose head unit with something Pioneer. I have the Pioneer D3 head unit with navi and I'll be damned if I can't hear the Bose Sub now. Pioneer head units have a history of working well with bose factory systems. I did the same thing in an old Maxima of mine and experienced the same thing. The sound quality has gone from mediocre to just simply very good. The loudness I don't really care about but I've got chest pumping bass now and it's way louder than the stock unit. I could use more highs though, so I may add some tweeters later and maybe a nice amp, but the bass is there. Definitely there. You don't need to spend thousands to make this a good sounding system. That's just BS.
I'm surprised none of you "experts" has mentioned how weak the stock Bose head unit is, and that is is the main problem with the Z's Bose system.
I'm surprised none of you "experts" has mentioned how weak the stock Bose head unit is, and that is is the main problem with the Z's Bose system.
Last edited by kleefton; 08-06-2007 at 02:28 PM.
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Originally Posted by kleefton
All I needed to do with the Bose system to get more bass was to replace the stock Bose head unit with something Pioneer. I have the Pioneer D3 head unit with navi and I'll be damned if I can't hear the Bose Sub now. Pioneer head units have a history of working well with bose factory systems. I did the same thing in an old Maxima of mine and experienced the same thing. The sound quality has gone from mediocre to just simply very good. The loudness I don't really care about but I've got chest pumping bass now and it's way louder than the stock unit. I could use more highs though, so I may add some tweeters later and maybe a nice amp, but the bass is there. Definitely there. You don't need to spend thousands to make this a good sounding system. That's just BS.
I'm surprised none of you "experts" has mentioned how weak the stock Bose head unit is, and that is is the main problem with the Z's Bose system.
I'm surprised none of you "experts" has mentioned how weak the stock Bose head unit is, and that is is the main problem with the Z's Bose system.
That is an unusual report.
--Spike
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No highs? No lows? Must be BOSE!
Check this out when you have some time!! "Better Profits Through Marketing" LOL
http://www.intellexual.net/bose.html
Check this out when you have some time!! "Better Profits Through Marketing" LOL
http://www.intellexual.net/bose.html
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Originally Posted by kleefton
All I needed to do with the Bose system to get more bass was to replace the stock Bose head unit with something Pioneer. I have the Pioneer D3 head unit with navi and I'll be damned if I can't hear the Bose Sub now. Pioneer head units have a history of working well with bose factory systems. I did the same thing in an old Maxima of mine and experienced the same thing. The sound quality has gone from mediocre to just simply very good. The loudness I don't really care about but I've got chest pumping bass now and it's way louder than the stock unit. I could use more highs though, so I may add some tweeters later and maybe a nice amp, but the bass is there. Definitely there. You don't need to spend thousands to make this a good sounding system. That's just BS.
I'm surprised none of you "experts" has mentioned how weak the stock Bose head unit is, and that is is the main problem with the Z's Bose system.
I'm surprised none of you "experts" has mentioned how weak the stock Bose head unit is, and that is is the main problem with the Z's Bose system.
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^^ Same here. I did about exactly what you describe, and can report I had the same results. (Good post... you understand.)
Before installing all the components of my CES build-up, I put in a high-end Clarion H/U... and ran the stock system with the Clarion H/U as the only new component (as a test). Everything was better (sound, terrestrial radio reception, CD player performance, etc.). But (and, as you point out), "better" is not necessarily "very good sound." An idiot in a room full of idiots is still an idiot.
Then I tried adding an amp (while keeping the Nissan EOM speakers). This did provide a slight (but hardly noticeable) improvement.
Finally...Adding good front speakers (I installed Focal 165V Slim component speakers) is what provided "very good sound."
Simply swapping the H/U will provide a minor improvement that may be satisfactory for some users, but this will not give you "very good sound." To get "very good sound," you need to replace the CES (H/U, amp, and front speakers).
--Spike
Before installing all the components of my CES build-up, I put in a high-end Clarion H/U... and ran the stock system with the Clarion H/U as the only new component (as a test). Everything was better (sound, terrestrial radio reception, CD player performance, etc.). But (and, as you point out), "better" is not necessarily "very good sound." An idiot in a room full of idiots is still an idiot.
Then I tried adding an amp (while keeping the Nissan EOM speakers). This did provide a slight (but hardly noticeable) improvement.
Finally...Adding good front speakers (I installed Focal 165V Slim component speakers) is what provided "very good sound."
Simply swapping the H/U will provide a minor improvement that may be satisfactory for some users, but this will not give you "very good sound." To get "very good sound," you need to replace the CES (H/U, amp, and front speakers).
--Spike
Last edited by Spike100; 08-07-2007 at 05:16 PM.