yes your high post count and early registration date makes you a perfect candidate for testing

 

$800+ my "crack"
im not payin $800 just to save me 3-4 seconds!!...its cheaper and wiser to put an alarm w/ remote start!!

 

maybe you wouldn't.. but i know lots of guys on this forum who can afford that would pay $800 for it.. and trust me i have the same feature in an 08 Altima and its nothing even close to remote start

 

...but if u still need to use your key, whats the point?

 

no he is talking about the 100% keyless system.. thats what we would pay $800 for .. I have that now with the altima.. the fact the key never leaves my pocket is such a relief

 

oh...hmm, that would b interesting

 

did you see his youtube video? its beautiful

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That is the seckz!!! What happens if the car is running and the transponder is removed over 5 inches, would the car turn off or keep running? 5 inches might be close enough to keep in pocket right?

 

I will try to answer based on what i read so far..

- Once the car is started you can leave with the key/transponder.. it is only used to start the car..
- The current setup needs to be 5 inches from the reciever, but for the final release he is working on something that will work from a further distance.. the current transponder doesn't use batteries so thats why it stays only 5 inches away.

 

Thanks doug, I should have read the rest of the thread. I appreciate you not living up to your signature, lol, i've seen some of the responses you have given.

 

how much is the current push button system going for?

by the way...your youtube video doesnt play...

 

The PB50 is $179.99. The IG50 hasn't been released yet. The testing is pretty much done, we are just trying to figure out what to do with it now. The biggest issue we are seeing with the IG50 is the difficulty installing it - some pretty significant changes have to be made to the car in order to make it work.

 

In the video posted the start/stop button is multi functioned and you can turn on IGN and ACC seperatly from start. Does the base kit have the same features or is that only on the RFID model?

 

The PB50 is designed to be used with the key and has no ignition/accessory switching capabilities.

The IG50 is an ignition controller, designed to replace the mechancial key with electronics. The IG50 is what is turning on the IGN and ACC in the video.

 

for the PB50...do u still put the key in the ignition or do u keep it in ya pocket?

 

The PB50 is designed to be used with the key and has no ignition/accessory switching capabilities.

With only the PB50 installed you need your OEM key for three things:

1. Ignition switching (turn the ignition on)
2. Steering wheel lock (to allow you to turn the steering wheel while driving)
3. OEM Transponder unlock (passive immobiliser that "reads" the chip in the key)

The IG50 takes care of #1, but we don't offer solutions nor support #2 or #3 - there is just too much liability for us to offer those sorts of products / services. To my knowledge no one makes a steering wheel lock bypass kit, you pretty much have to figure that out on your own. Our IG50 is designed to be compatible with 3rd party security bypasses (like DEI products).

 

The passive imobilizer can be easily moved out of th bundle and relocated to convienient place. The steering wheel lock/ignition assembly can be removed once there is a method to start the car with out a key. Is the keyswitch activation part of the starting process of the push button?

The main BCM power is routed through the switch. If the switch is opened the front side has power and the backside that is conected to the BCM and in turn the NATS antena for the transponder chip is only grounded. Once the switch is closed (key inserted) the BCM has power applied through the switch to the NATS antena reads the transponder code in he key. Im guessing a relay takes care of the switching?

It seems that what I've been looking for all along was the IG50. I've been trying to figure out how to do the application of power with out several external switched to control the 12V pos Constant, 12V switched, ACC, Ignition, and key switch. If this gets to a production phase any time soon I definately want in on it if its reasonbly priced.

Good job on all the work man. Your doing leaps and bounds for the comunity.

 

bump

 

Would it be possible to use this http://www.advancedkeys.com/index.htm for the RFID autentication? It has a 2-3 meter range so you could leave your "key" in your pocket and push the start button. Here is a wiring diagram. http://www.advancedkeys.com/docs/Ant...%20Diagram.pdf
It has a "starter relay" which disables the starter when a valid RFID isn't present. They say it can be used for vehicles with Push start as a security function. Could this be used to turn the ignition to "ON"?? Would that would solve the keyless issue?

 

The Advanced Keys unit does not have the ability to securely control the ignition. You would be able to use it to open the doors, but not to make the KPtech PB50 work without a key.