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Old Oct 7, 2007 | 06:23 PM
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valentine one.!
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Old Oct 7, 2007 | 06:40 PM
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I have a Valentine and I love it. All of my friends after seeing mine, have switched over to Valentine.
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisPPW
valentine one.!
I HATE doing traffic but when I do, I've stopped many with expensive detectors.....but I've yet to see a Valentine. I have also never heard of any other officers pulling over anyone with a Valentine. If I ever need to get a detector it would be the V1 hands down.

Good job on making the right decision there
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 08:43 PM
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wow doesnt get more honest then that thanks for the input bro. Im prob replacing my 8500 with a v1 this week or next. Says service required or some ****. Prob just gettin old.
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by chriskabobbers
.... ugh lol that's a lot of stuff. i guess i'll just drive the speed limit -_-
The radar detector link has already been posted... but I'm posting it again. Anyway and for those who saif they have and like K40... those are complete crap compared to what else is out now.

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http://www.guysoflidar.com/august-20...ctor-test.html

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http://www.guysoflidar.com/march-200...mmer-test.html
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 07:48 PM
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V1!!!!!
saved me good 7~8times..
and my roomie got saved like 4 times
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 06:14 AM
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I've got a pair of V1's - one in each of my Nissans. The one in my 350Z is 6-7 years old and has never let me down. The one in my Xterra is about a year old now.

Two weeks ago I was coming back to the LA area from Bishop down the 395 ... a LONG and very straight highway. I crested a hill and the V1 started chirping ... then beeping, and then wailing ... but not a cop in site. I thought the thing had lost it's mind and I muted it ... then about 7-10 miles later I came to where the cop was sitting blasting out into the valley. Seven miles is a whole bunch of warning. Just amazing.

No detector is a license to speed and if you're the only sucker on the road speeding you're going to get nailed at point blank range where it's too late to do anything.
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 06:23 AM
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Here in NY they dont even go by Radar Detectors anymore. The Cop can rite you up for judging your speed. I have seen it in court were they say I am an officer who is certified in making estimates of speed based on the lines on the road. So Jammer or even a detecer isnt safe from the human being who has had a bad day.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ZGTChick
Beltronics STI Driver. Zero radar leakage, which is important considering most cops now have radar detector detectors. Valentine has best laser detection but also has the highest leakage and therefore is easier to detect. But both are good, just depends on what your looking for. For me, I dont care about false positive detection, so the Passport isnt one I would be interested in.
Who cares about zero leakage when radar detectors are only illegal in one state?
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RedBullRR
Here in NY they dont even go by Radar Detectors anymore. The Cop can rite you up for judging your speed. I have seen it in court were they say I am an officer who is certified in making estimates of speed based on the lines on the road. So Jammer or even a detecer isnt safe from the human being who has had a bad day.
I imagine that would be an easy ticket to fight in court. I realize it's still a pain... but still better than having to pay it.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by knitoe
of course it doesnt guarantee that you will not get a ticket. it DETECTS - it does NOT PREVENT. you still have to use good judgement even if you have one,
I absolutely agree.
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albeit, a seasoned escort owner is usually able to tell which way (front or back) the signal is coming from
Sorry, I'm going have to call BS on that. I've owned a radar detector w/no arrows before and there are so many cases where not having arrows (in conjunction w/the bogey counter) puts you at a huge disadvantage.

If it wasn't obvious from my post, I have a Valentine One.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 02:18 AM
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some of you guys (depending on which state you live in) have to remember that if your valentine v1's or whatever detect a laser signal, you are probably already screwed. Lasers don't go everywhere like radar signals do so if your detector detects laser, it is a cop pointing his laser at you at that moment.

In hawaii where I am from, the cops only use laser so many people use laser jammers. I used to have a hidden laser jammer from a company called lidatek. In california, highway patrol is beginning to use laser more and more due to its accuracy and easier maintanence so it'd probably be best to get a laser jammer and a detector together. just my .02
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by nofeardude87
some of you guys (depending on which state you live in) have to remember that if your valentine v1's or whatever detect a laser signal, you are probably already screwed. Lasers don't go everywhere like radar signals do so if your detector detects laser, it is a cop pointing his laser at you at that moment.

In hawaii where I am from, the cops only use laser so many people use laser jammers. I used to have a hidden laser jammer from a company called lidatek. In california, highway patrol is beginning to use laser more and more due to its accuracy and easier maintanence so it'd probably be best to get a laser jammer and a detector together. just my .02


I wish cops here in texas only used laser. Laser interceptor is out now, so that would be an easy defeat for nearly all tickets.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by cwerdna
Sorry, I'm going have to call BS on that. I've owned a radar detector w/no arrows before and there are so many cases where not having arrows (in conjunction w/the bogey counter) puts you at a huge disadvantage.
I agree totally, I was not trying to argue that the 8500 is better than the V1. I was just stating that one can make a good assumption on whether or not the signal is coming from the front or the back based on its continued strength. Also, I use the passport in expert mode which is quite similiar to the bogey counter with a benefit of showing quite a few different bands and strengths of radar at once.



Again, this doesn't make it a better detector - I know the V1 is a better detector. I just want to reiterate my original recommendation of trying to find someone who owns whichever detector you are interested in and testing it out to see if it fits your functional needs, afterall having some sort of detection is better than flying blind.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by tquill
The radar detector link has already been posted... but I'm posting it again. Anyway and for those who saif they have and like K40... those are complete crap compared to what else is out now.

Radar detectors:
http://www.guysoflidar.com/august-20...ctor-test.html

Laser jammers:
http://www.guysoflidar.com/march-200...mmer-test.html

So what is your basis that the K-40 systems are crap? Not ONE of those tests you posted even tested any of the systems of the K-40? Not the radar or the laser.

I've had my K-40 for years and it has saved me MANY times. The ONLY time I have gotten ticketed and caught was in the middle of nowhere Idaho when I got hit with instant on. In that case it happpened so fast that the front didn't even alert and only the rear did. Yes, I was going quite fast as I was on the AKA Rally at the time.

The V-1s worked well but 3 of 5 people who had V-1's got ticketed, only one of 4 who had a K-40 did (me), and 0 with a the beltronics (yet there was only one person with it) and he had a K-40 supplementing it. I know it's not a "conclusive test", but I'll stick with my K-40 from personal experiences.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 07:04 AM
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i have the bel sti driver radar and its awesome...actully has a higher rating than valentine and escort....roughly the same price aswell
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 07:33 AM
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LOL! The people with the V1 obviously didn't have it on, or they had it turned down or they didn't slow down fast enough. Either way, the V1 will alert you way ahead of time with any signals it picks up. It is one of the best I have used. I use to have a Passport 8500, and now a V1, never been ticketed. I was with the 8500.

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So what is your basis that the K-40 systems are crap? Not ONE of those tests you posted even tested any of the systems of the K-40? Not the radar or the laser.

I've had my K-40 for years and it has saved me MANY times. The ONLY time I have gotten ticketed and caught was in the middle of nowhere Idaho when I got hit with instant on. In that case it happpened so fast that the front didn't even alert and only the rear did. Yes, I was going quite fast as I was on the AKA Rally at the time.

The V-1s worked well but 3 of 5 people who had V-1's got ticketed, only one of 4 who had a K-40 did (me), and 0 with a the beltronics (yet there was only one person with it) and he had a K-40 supplementing it. I know it's not a "conclusive test", but I'll stick with my K-40 from personal experiences.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 07:56 AM
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I wasn't saying the V1's were bad at all. I should have mentioned this was over the course of an entire week and considering the cops from state to state were looking for us and waiting in quite a few instances all the systems worked well given the speed the vehicles were traveling. Those were just some figures we got after the trek across the country. The variables and locations were all different, but Im sure they had them on.

I was mainly just curious where his K-40 is crap came from.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Driven1
So what is your basis that the K-40 systems are crap? Not ONE of those tests you posted even tested any of the systems of the K-40? Not the radar or the laser.
Personally ask anyone from guysoflidar about it and they will tell you the truth. It's an average to below average radar detector and the laser jamming capability is worthless. I personally know someone who has tests many jammers and detectors (former GOL member) and he convinced me (from a video which is no longer allowed to be posted) that they are nothing special. Especially considering the price.

Also when such little information is on the internet about a certain product and its reviews, as it is with the K40, it's obvious there is something being hidden.

http://www.radartest.com/article.asp?articleID=8502

Originally Posted by Driven1
I've had my K-40 for years and it has saved me MANY times. The ONLY time I have gotten ticketed and caught was in the middle of nowhere Idaho when I got hit with instant on. In that case it happpened so fast that the front didn't even alert and only the rear did. Yes, I was going quite fast as I was on the AKA Rally at the time.
RMR detectors and cobras have been claimed to save people too. Does that mean they are good detectors? Most definitely not.

Originally Posted by Driven1
The V-1s worked well but 3 of 5 people who had V-1's got ticketed, only one of 4 who had a K-40 did (me), and 0 with a the beltronics (yet there was only one person with it) and he had a K-40 supplementing it. I know it's not a "conclusive test", but I'll stick with my K-40 from personal experiences.
These statistics are irrelevant. People need to know how to use a detector as well. A V1 which alerts someone who is going 100mph isn't responsible for the ticket if the person doesn't slow down.

Even if the K40 was as good as the V1, is it worth over 2X the price? I personally don't think so.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 02:24 PM
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As in the test conducted, if you are the primary target of a Ladar or Radar, you are screw since it takes less than one second to lock in your speed. However, as a secondary vehicle, Radar has more leakage and even Ladar to some extent.

Most cops DON'T do traffic. Although it sounds odd, most cops hates do traffic and only does so because they are force to by the admin. With that in mind, most police cars don't have Radar units. Some cities have a traffic unit but few carry the lastest and badest ladar/radar.

So for those who factor in the leakage of a dector, I'm telling you that it really doesn't matter.
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