I really don’t think there is any hope of getting decent sound from the stock door position if you mount a coaxial speaker there. The grill is concave (just the opposite of what you want), and the highs from a coaxial speaker mounted in this position cannot be staged correctly. Add to this the fact the speaker is “buried” too deeply, and it only gets worse.

In fact, I don’t much like my midrange mounted in the stock door position (the sound is muffled), but only did this for the reasons you mention. I think my tweeter mount is pretty good though, delivering nice highs that I can stage properly. I’m using a pretty decent speaker (Focal 165 V Slim)

--Spike

 

So I am doomed then. Boo.

Maybe flushmount in the Sail panel, use the eye-ball style aiming to adjust?

EDIT: Oh.. if you guys want to see my last setup you can poke around this folder http://plaza.ufl.edu/jvisaria/fiblerglass/

No need to say anything, this was my first fiberglass project and there are a ton of things I would have done differently the second time around. As you can see, I am pretty much trying to avoid a second time around but its looking difficult.

 

its tough with coaxial. Would you really miss your dead pedal that much if you had to take it out? i have iridium 6.2 dls mounted in custom kicks and i havent missed my dead pedal one bit. Just a thought drive for a couple days without using it if you can live without it then i think the sound would be worth it jmo

 

I really wish I could... my last setup had door pods that didn't restrict my legroom nearly as much as a kick would, and they still annoyed the crap out of me... Comfort is more important than audio in my case =/

 

This is the caveat of audio installs in such a small vehicle. If you were installing in something like a suburban, hell, I've seen .5 cf sealed enclosure pods attached to the doors with 8" subs in them. And there was still plenty of leg room.

Now, lets say you did the grill mod and covered with speaker cloth. Then installed a driver such as below with the tweeters towards the bottom/front of each door so they are angled back toward the listening position. this way the tweeter should have a clear path and you might actually have a chance of staging something resembling anything. But as said earlier in this post, legs can get in the way if you often have passengers in your car. If you don't, then you should be good with this alignment. This will keep a 99% stock look with the exception of the grill cloth.


http://www.diamondaudio.com/content/view/109/123/

 

if its just a simple matter of drilling out the stock grilles to get good sound of the stock location, i woul dhave done it a long time ago..

int he stock location, i have tried quite a few optoins, and all results in two things that aggrevate me:

1. lack of midbass, even with full door dampening

2. door panel buzzing

imaging is not very good either...

so i think you have to decide what is more important...i dont believe kicks are iireverable...infact, i view them as even easier to return to stock than doing stock door locations..

witness:

returning a stock spekaer install with grill drilling to stock:

1. get new grilles
2. remove the speaker and reinstall ole one, which may or may not involve redoing the wiring
3. remove wiring from the molex plug if ytou run new wires
4. total of about 2-4 hours of work

returning of kicks to stocK:

1. purchase a new pair o kicks for around $50 shipped (real world price, i get htem a lot)
2. snap the old ones off, put the new ones on
3. sell the old ones
4. total time involved of work about 5 mins



b

 

Bing, Thanks for your post...
The biggest problem I have with kicks is the loss of all my leg room... Maybe some door pods would be less intrusive... I am assuming they wouldn't be as good as kicks either.

Blar! Seems like I am caught between Kicks and discomfort, or crappy sound and all the leg room I could ever want. there has got to be a happy medium someplace.

 

honestly, IMO, kicks take up less room than door pods, the door pods tend to cut into your knee/shin space, where sa the kicks, really just come out about 1.5" from stock so youjust loose your deadpedal...but thats just my opinion

having done over 250 pairs of kicks, i an tell you that virtually everyone gets used to them with in 10 days of driving, its sorta like getting into a new car and feeling werid for a little bit, then your obyd adjsuts and its like a glove

 

Bing, how much do you sell the kick panels for? I'm curious and tired of the door buzzing