Baller23217

HU: Eclipse AVN6620

Components: Rainbow SLC265kick

Amp: Rainbow iPaul 4.300 (90w x 2 for comps + 270w x 1 for sub)

Sub: Image Dynamics IDQ10v3

Sub Enclosure: Zenclosures.com sealed understrut box with amp rack (what is optimal volume for the IDQ?)

Thoughts? Suggestions?

quakerroatmeal

iTrader: (9)

Saw you posted this on caraudio.com forum. Everything looks good man, picked some nice products there.

StreetOC192

iTrader: (7)

+1. I'd be very interested in your thoughts on the Rainbow amp. I've actually never used one.

Baller23217

To me, a watt is a watt. I'm pretty sure I will be going with that amp because of it's appearance. I think it is attractive cosmetically, and since the amp will be on display on the amp rack I want it to be pleasing to the eye. The second reason this amp got my attention was that I can run my components and my sub with just one amp. This saves on cost. Although I'd like to give the sub more than 270 watts, there aren't many five channel amps out there for a similar price that do that much power (unless you guys wanna show me some options).

StreetOC192

iTrader: (7)

A watt is indeed a watt, but different amps have different processing capabilities and different build qualities.

As for other amp options, a very solid 5 channel amp would be a Crossfirevr705d:
http://ampguts.realmofexcursion.com/Crossfire_VR705D/
It's rated conservatively at 12v, so at 14.4v you could expect at least-
4 x 65W @ 4ohms + 1 x 360W @ 2 ohms
or
2 x 260W @ 4 ohms bridged + 1 x 360W @ 2 ohms

But the Rainbow is a 4 channel that you are bridging to 3 channel, right?

Baller23217

From the site I'd buy the Rainbow amp from:

# 4 x 90 Watt RMS at 4 Ohm
# 2 x 90 Watt RMS + 270W (for BASS) at 4 Ohm
# 4 x 140 Watt RMS at 2 Ohm
# 2 x 270 Watt RMS at 4 Ohm

So yes.

I would need a dual 4 ohm IDQ correct? Probably a dumb question, but I've been out of car audio for a long time.

StreetOC192

iTrader: (7)

You will want a dual 2 ohm sub. then wire it in series to show the amp a 4 ohm load.

Baller23217

How can I get something like this for my components?:

I love how it's leather. I would only want the midbass in the kick pod. I think I want the tweeter in the stock location.

brick

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Make it yourself

Baller23217

I know the pic is from your install. haha

I don't have the skills or material to make it myself...

16psibrick

iTrader: (10)

looks good...i would suggest putting the 6.5" two way slc into kick panels, it will get you much better midbass response and a pretty darn nice center image without any time alginment, it will also get a nice dash high staging, i build custom kicks for the Zs if you want, just PM me...hell i can even provide you a package with the SLC kicks if youwant as i do carry rainbow, through i rarely use it hehe...

other than that, i guess i would say 270 is a bit low for an idqv3, but you can do okay wtih it...you would need a dual 2ohm as mentioned above.

the i-paul is nothing special, just a relatively entry level amplifier, i'd like to see you put a little bit more power upfront, but it will sound okay...

to me, front spekaer location is very important inthe Z

b

Baller23217

Any reason you "barely use" Rainbow?

Maybe you can PM me some prices for a package deal of some nice components and kick panels?

Any amps you can recommend to run both the comps and sub while looking good at the same time? Or maybe a sub that would do better with 270 watts?

16psibrick

iTrader: (10)

i have my reaons why i dont use rianbow, but i dont want to share it here a little has to do wtih sound, but also other stuff...i did do their CES demo car from last year hehe

why dont you do this, PM me a budget for: amp, speakers/kicks, and i can prolly get a recommendation all together.

bythe way, the idqv3 does NOT fit in the zenenclosure box. the idq10 is oversized.

PM me and we can go from there
b

Baller23217

PM sent

Get_Zwole

iTrader: (34)

a little teaser of some of bings work its fantastic highest ive come across. Very great guy to deal with he will really make time to answer your questions even if you ask as many as i did lmao.

Baller23217

oh trust me, I've looked through all his work and was blown away with some of the installs hes done in the Z.

He'll be involved in my completed system in some shape or form.

Roper215

You can call and get the understrut box "custom" made for the IDQ though. The hole just needs to be opened up about .40" or so. from what I understand Mike has done this for members before, not sure if there is an extra cost or not since it's not a prefab like he normally sells.

16psibrick

iTrader: (10)

hmm, the last time i checked i thought the idq's oversized basket was literally too big to fit within the confines of hte front baffle hehe...can someone measure the front mounting plate top to bottom?

b

Roper215

From what I was told this can be accomplished.

The IDQ10 is like 9.60" for a mounting hole. Box is like 9.20"ish.

The overall OD is small enough to fit within the confines of the understrut box, the hole just needs to be opened up a bit.

Baller23217

REVISED PLAN PER 16psibrick's RECOMMEDATIONS:

HU: Eclipse AVN6620

Components: DLS MS6a 6.5" two way component set in kicks

Amp: DLS CA51 - 55 x 4 + 250 x 1 -- I was told that sending 55 watts to each midbass driver and each tweeter would actually get louder and sound better as it would be actively crossed over...

Sub: Image Dynamics ID10 - the entry level ID sub as I only have 250 watts to play with if I go with that amp.

Opinions?