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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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Question What kind of amps / how many do I need?

Featuring 2 12" Alpine Subs (http://www.crutchfield.com/p_500SWR1...2D.html?tp=111) & 2 10" JL Audio Subs (http://www.crutchfield.com/p_13610W1...-4.html?tp=111)

I asked this question on yahoo and i just wanted to get a second opinion, this was the guy told me:
You WILL need two Monoblock amplifiers since the 12`s are dual 2 ohms and the 10`s are Single 4 ohms.

Get this amp for the Alpine Type R`s.
http://www.woofersetc.com/p4738/PDX1...-Amplifier.htm

That amp is perfect for the 12`s. Wire the voice coils in series and the subs in parallel for a 2 ohm load.

Get this amp for the JL Audio 10`s

http://www.woofersetc.com/p5478/PDX1...-Amplifier.htm

Perfect for the 10`s. Alpines PDX line is excellent.

...Also if someone wouldn't mind explaining to me, how exactly do you know what kind of amp you need to get?
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 07:13 PM
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why are you getting 4 subs?
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 09:23 PM
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why are you getting 4 subs?
+1 out of curiosity, and why two of one kind and two of another?
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 10:29 PM
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4 subs in a z? you'll be needing an alignment............

i run one kicker solobaric (square) 10" in an enclosure that tucks underneath my rear strut bar like the zenclosures do. it's a dvc 4ohm, running at 2ohm mono off a kicker zx400.1. hits plenty hard. harder than most two ten set-ups and some dual 12" set-ups. z's don't need a ton of subs, they're hatchbacks, which by nature play louder since there's nothing obstructing the bass from entering the cabin.

if you're stuck on multiple subs, take into consideration a few things: space is limited to begin with, so choose whether to take it all up with subs/amps, or go for a good quality set-up that leaves you with some usable space. there's not much of a medium or in between to choose from. second, consider the additional weight you'll be adding with more subs, amps, and a larger enclosure. your performance will be affected accordingly. also, keep in mind the access to your spare etc.

i built an amp rack like the one's the zenclosures has and it houses the zx400.1 and two zx400.2's for the mids and highs. kicker components in the front and rears, with no tweets in the rear to help the soundstage. get good power to your mids and highs so you don't have to over-drive them to get volume out of them. you'll be much happier and you'll save money in the end if you just build the system right the first time instead of going back through and finding out you don't have enough, or it's too much etc.

everyone's preference on sound is different, some like more bass, some mid/highs etc. me, i personally could care less if a car shakes the windows from 4 blocks away but you can't make out a word of the music. i'd much prefer a system you can hear the words from 4 blocks away than just bass. and better yet, if you can hear both equally with a good soundstage and clarity. 4 subs in a z's been done, and it's ridiculous.

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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by shvd64cdy
4 subs in a z? you'll be needing an alignment............

i run one kicker solobaric (square) 10" in an enclosure that tucks underneath my rear strut bar like the zenclosures do. it's a dvc 4ohm, running at 2ohm mono off a kicker zx400.1. hits plenty hard. harder than most two ten set-ups and some dual 12" set-ups. z's don't need a ton of subs, they're hatchbacks, which by nature play louder since there's nothing obstructing the bass from entering the cabin. if you're stuck on multiple subs, take into consideration a few things: space is limited to begin with, so choose whether to take it all up with subs/amps, or go for a good quality set-up that leaves you with some usable space. there's not much of a medium or in between to choose from. second, consider the additional weight you'll be adding with more subs, amps, and a larger enclosure. your performance will be affected accordingly. also, keep in mind the access to your spare etc. i built an amp rack like the one's the zenclosures has and it houses the zx400.1 and two zx400.2's for the mids and highs. kicker components in the front and rears, with no tweets in the rear to help the soundstage. get good power to your mids and highs so you don't have to over-drive them to get volume out of them. you'll be much happier and you'll save money in the end if you just build the system right the first time instead of going back through and finding out you don't have enough, or it's too much etc. everyone's preference on sound is different, some like more bass, some mid/highs etc. me, i personally could care less if a car shakes the windows from 4 blocks away but you can't make out a word of the music. i'd much prefer a system you can hear the words from 4 blocks away than just bass. and better yet, if you can hear both equally with a good soundstage and clarity. 4 subs in a z's been done, and it's ridiculous.
I'm sure you have some good info, but a word to the wise not many people are going to bother to read a solid 3'x10" block of letters on their screen.
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Kwame@z1Auto
I'm sure you have some good info, but a word to the wise not many people are going to bother to read a solid 3'x10" block of letters on their screen.
+1. Started to read but didn't finish. Mostly because he made no substantial points up to the point I read. Oh, and he seems proud of a solobaric. LOL.
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 12:57 AM
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i remember i had a 12" in my Zed, the box was no where near big enough but it still slapped dummy retarded hard! but 4 subs? thats a little over the top...
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 05:28 AM
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Pick one speaker or the other. Get 4. 4 monoblock amplifies also. Make your life simple.
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 06:16 AM
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Ok well i, found 2 different boxes that i preferred anyway, so it's between two boxes, one 15" or 2 12". Any sub (i want to stick with the type r's but im open for discussion) and amp recommendations?
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jadaniya
Oh, and he seems proud of a solobaric. LOL.
oh boy...... i'm sponsored by kicker, and although audio equipment is subjective, it is high quality stuff and has been around longer than you. thanks for playing.............pick up your prize at the door!

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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Kwame@z1Auto
I'm sure you have some good info, but a word to the wise not many people are going to bother to read a solid 3'x10" block of letters on their screen.
3 ft by 10"? wow.........kwame you have a big *** monitor! j/k .....fixed it just for ya!
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Originally Posted by shvd64cdy
3 ft by 10"? wow.........kwame you have a big *** monitor! j/k .....fixed it just for ya!
Yeah my shift button owned me.
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by shvd64cdy
oh boy...... i'm sponsored by kicker, and although audio equipment is subjective, it is high quality stuff and has been around longer than you. thanks for playing.............pick up your prize at the door!
Obviously "high quality" means different things to different people. I haven't met a single person who knows their audio who cares about kicker since I was in high school and the kids were playing with their limited funds and low standards. That being said, I was a kicker owner once... In 10th grade. So we're both a part of the kicker familia , only I'm not proud of it.

Where's my prize? Hope it's not some pos kicker equipment or audio advice so obvious it can hardly be called advice. Thanks for playing, sorry but you do not qualify for any prizes.
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by whydee
Ok well i, found 2 different boxes that i preferred anyway, so it's between two boxes, one 15" or 2 12". Any sub (i want to stick with the type r's but im open for discussion) and amp recommendations?
2 Image Dynamics IDMax 12's... more than you will ever need
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How many amps did you go with?
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 05:37 AM
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Outstanding followup.
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