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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 04:55 PM
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Every time we get a heavy rain, I get water standing in the door jambs. Anyone else get this? You can see in the photos that it's quite a bit of water (spilled on the ground when I open the door).

The water sits on the trim - where the logo is. Is this supposed to be normal? - it's the same both sides. Can see probs arising over time.

Doesn't seem to be any water getting inside the car.

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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 05:16 PM
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With the rain you had down there yesterday I'd think your lucky if that all the water you had in the car. Hope everyone is OK.

In regards to your issue I do get a little water on there if I hose the car but it's literally only a few drops. If you're getting that much from rain then it may be a problem.
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 05:47 PM
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I got water in the same place sometimes.

I haven't looked yet but it doesn't look like it gets in the car, just in the sill. I was assuming it was normal.
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 06:32 PM
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LK, I get the same thing. I doesn't seem to be a problem but I will get it looked at when I get my next (10K) service. I only get it when I've washed the car though.

As always

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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 06:44 PM
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Yea H,
Goin' in for the 20k next week (has it been 20k km's already???!!!). Will get them to look at it. Wanted to find out if it's a universal problem before I talk to the dealer about it.

I get it when there's any reasonable amount of rain or a washing.

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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 07:47 PM
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Look under door at the hinge end and you'll will find a water drain covered behind a rubber flap/deflector, I think its all part of the design to drain water going in between the door panel and the glass.

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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 10:17 PM
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aren't the rubber seals on the inside of this piece. If this is the case then the water is OUTSIDE of the car - so no problem.
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 12:55 PM
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nsw350z

Correct.

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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 02:47 PM
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Correct and Incorrect.

Don't know about your's but mine's got 2 sets of seals. One on the inside of the trim and one on the outside of the trim. Doesn't seem like much danger of water gettin inside the car but what I'm concerned about is water standing in BETWEEN the 2 seals and causing some corrosion down the track. I think the outside seal might actually be holding the water in.

Also David re: rubber flap, Had a look under this flap and there were no holes. Couldn't actually see a use for it except to maybe prevent wind getting in through the join where the side skirts meet the car. My doors have got 4 holes along the very bottom edge that look like drain holes. And they are OUTSIDE the outermost seals.

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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 02:48 PM
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I get water around the tweeters when I wash it and on the top of the door panel.
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 02:49 PM
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Just want to say .... LOVE your qoute Beaker!
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 12:27 AM
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Just a bit of prattle from an old bloke about RUST.

Old freezer has had more cars than most reading this have had birthdays, and rust/corrosion has never been a problem -
my first car was a very 2nd hand Holden FJ - I had it ungaraged
for 12+ years and it was a couple of years old when I got it.
I sold it for just on 3 times what I paid for it - and never spent
a bob on it! NO RUST - and for anyone who knows, those
buggers were the worst rust buckets ever conceived.

The secret - passed to me from an even older fugger -

Your usual carwash PLUS 1/2 cup of KERO - put both in the
bucket and foam it to a nice creamy mix with plenty of pressure
from the hose - the two will homogonise into the smoothest
mix you've ever used.

Just wash in the usual way - rinse and chamois dry.

You'll notice a slightly better sheen than if you just ust detergent -
and if you're verry fussy, a quick wipe over with a nice soft
bath towel (steal from the linen press) will leave an enhanced shine.

WHY?

As you know kero is a light oil - and when it washes into the
door cavities, wheel wells and creases in the bodywork,
ultimately the detergent residual dries or washes off
and leaves a microscopic layer of rust inhibiting oil.

I have even read on some washes "contains rust inhibitors"
and the MSD sheets name it at "aromatic hydrocarbons-kerosene"

If it became widely known just how easy it is to stop rust -
the aftermarket "rustproofing" industry would be devastated.
There's no way that they can get their concoctions into the
tiny seams and grooves, etc that kero can penetrate.

So that's for now - interested in the comments.

BLACKFROST
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 12:58 AM
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Hey Cold Guy,

Just noticed you got your "j" back.

Sounds like an interesting recipe. So do you notice anything with the windows - any film or residue?

I've gotten pretty lazy in my young age. A new hand-carwash just opened near my place. Get a special price on a wash, inside clean, full armour-all inside and out for $12. They'll even do a wax for an extra $12.

I guess I'm not totally worried about rust (especially with the new secret recipe) because I'll have the car for 4 years max - less if they finally decide to factory turbo before then. More concerned about the friggin' outside seals not doin' their job. Be nice if everything worked as it was supposed to.

Anyway, Thanks for the tip.

El Kay
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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 11:01 AM
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I'm a little worried about water in my doors.
I am mostly concerned because I am adding some stereo speakers and I don't want them to get damp or splattered on.

There are obviously 4 drains at the bottom of the door to allow water to flow out.
I take it that it is normal for water to wick its way from the lower door sill in to the inside of the door.
All of that wicked water has to go somewhere, and when it rains I can sometimes hear the water dripping inside the door down into the bottom (where the drains are).
This gives me a few concerns:
1) What if the water starts to freeze?
2) How much does this water splatter when it hits the bottom of the door?
3) What if you are parked on a steep hill and the water cannot drain towards the front of the door?

The door drainage issue looks pretty problematic to me.
Both doors do it.

Is this leakage normal, or should I take it in and have them repair it?
My Z has 11K+ miles on it.

Pv
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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by lionking
Just want to say .... LOVE your qoute Beaker!
Thanks!

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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 03:03 PM
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thnx for the info Snowman... always learn something new on this board!

I'm still trying to work out how to use this new found knowledge though . My car gets sold once my lease runs out!

I really really hope there is a factory turbo by then.... highly unlikely though.
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