ok i like to track my non brembo z on road coarses... but i have this problem. at the end of the day i toast my rear pads and ruin my rear rotors. i eat through them after 5 20 minute sessions. so is it inevitable that i have to change my rear pads half way through the day or is there a pad that can last my beating?

thanks in advanced.

 

Carbotech is a great pad, but not for the street. So you would need to change them at the track and then back to street pads when your done. Tracking a Z with small calipers is kind of chancy. Put in the highest temp brake fluid you can find. If you have a somewhat open spoke wheel all the better cause you need to get air to those brakes.

 

Jon, I've been running the Raybesto's ST-41/43 compounds and they hold up really well on the track...but similar to the above comment, these are not suitable for street driving.

-Peter

 

Three possible suggestions.

1) Are you running with the VDC on? It appearently tends to favour the rear brakes and can cause overheating.
2) I'd also recommend cutting the rear dust shields off to get more airflow over the rotor.
3) Porterfield makes an R4 rear pad for the non-Brembo.

 

Do a quick search:
Here's one thread that will help. PFC, Hawk, carbotech, and raybestos all make good high temp pads.

https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....ight=raybestos

 

I want to echo what Fritzman said. I just went with Stoptech rotors, brake lines and NISMO pads (front and rear) on my base Z. I was suprised to see that the NISMO pads dont have dust shields and you can actually see the red pads and "NISMO" name right through the caliper. I assume this is for air flow and cooling. I haven't tracked my car so I dont know how it will stand up, but the braking improvement is remarkable over the stock base z setup. Also, the Stoptech calipers have reduced unsprung weight...

 

sorry, I meant the rotors, (not caliper) reduced weight

 

I have a friend that runs the PBRs they are nice to rotors and don't die as fast.

I run the Hawk 9012 blue all the way around, they eat rotors and pad life. BUT the pads should last about 3 track days, and the rear rotors probably would last about 3 pad changes. The fronts eat the rotors pretty good, but the pads last quite a bit.

On a side note these pads are so so awesome on the track.
On the street i change my pads back to Hawk HPS, because, the 9012s are not good on the street since they eat so much rotor, and they finish pretty quick.

 

my sister replaced her OE pads with nismo pads front and rear and they were fine for a track day at buttonwillow as well as street driving. i didn't go all out on the front straight since i wasn't used to her car but there was no fade all day. but she also has a base model so maybe it is vdc that's eating your rears.

 

+3 TCS OFF for sure, It did the same to me when on.

Track Pads for sure, I like Carbotech's

Tin snips to cut off the "dust shields" behind the rotors, they trap heat.

 

I have to thank daveh for finding the raybestos st43 material while working with porterfield. They are the first pad I've tried in the back that didn't get destroyed in one day (and didn't temp fade 10 minutes into each session). Highly recommended.

Call up Porterfield, tell them to cut you the ST43 for the non-brembo rears, and they'll have 'em to you in a couple of days. They're not cheap, but because they last so much longer, cost per use is way lower than anything else I've tried as well.

ahm

 

i have a base model so i don't have vdc. i just like to DRIVE on the track.

 

I run Hawk HP+ on all corners.

 

I have the Nismo pads up front, OEM pads on the rear and Motul RBF600 (non-Brembo brakes). I had a pyrometer w/ me at the last track day in September and found that even after the cool down lap the rears were still considerably hotter than the fronts by about 100+F. I run w/ the VDC off but I'm guessing that the extra mass of the drive-train causes the rears to have to disapate more energy. I checked my friend's S2k and his rears were even hotter in comparision to his fronts. He was having problems w/ his rear pads wearing considerably faster than his fronts. Then I checked my other friend's STi and the difference between her front and rears were pretty equal.

 

I'm not saying this is your case but how you brake affects the wear rate on the track. It's better to do all your braking at once than to brake for too long. IE brake hard at first and then let off to trail brake if needed.

I tried hawk blue in the rear and did not get much rotor wear. Front is a different story...

 

Bringing this post back from the dead. I totally ripped through a new set of stock non-Brembo rear pads in about 15 minutes on the track. If you have been to more than just a few track events, do NOT use the stock pads or your day will end early.