Sumitomo HTR Z III
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Sumitomo HTR Z III
Apparently this tire has been ranked number 1 as the best max performance summer tire beating out the other competitors (Bridgestone Potenza RE050A Pole Position, Yokohoma ADVAN Sport, Continental Contisport Contact 3).
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...ay.jsp?ttid=93
Has anyone had any experience or heard anything about these new tires? I know that their previous HTR Z tires just plain sucked because I used to have them. Right now I'm on REO50As and I love them for the street and track. After my next HPDE in Jan my tires will be gone and I'll need a new set. Wanted to get another set of the RE05As again but this new Sumitomo has me thinking especially with the much cheaper price and tireracks ranking. Is it too good to be true that this Sumitomo has more grip than the Bridgestone, almost performs just as good in the wet, and is much cheaper with double the treadwear?
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...ay.jsp?ttid=93
Has anyone had any experience or heard anything about these new tires? I know that their previous HTR Z tires just plain sucked because I used to have them. Right now I'm on REO50As and I love them for the street and track. After my next HPDE in Jan my tires will be gone and I'll need a new set. Wanted to get another set of the RE05As again but this new Sumitomo has me thinking especially with the much cheaper price and tireracks ranking. Is it too good to be true that this Sumitomo has more grip than the Bridgestone, almost performs just as good in the wet, and is much cheaper with double the treadwear?
Last edited by dklau33; 11-29-2007 at 11:33 PM.
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Originally Posted by dklau33
Apparently this tire has been ranked number 1 as the best max performance summer tire beating out the other competitors (Bridgestone Potenza RE050A Pole Position, Yokohoma ADVAN Sport, Continental Contisport Contact 3).
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...ay.jsp?ttid=93
Has anyone had any experience or heard anything about these new tires? I know that their previous HTR Z tires just plain sucked because I used to have them. Right now I'm on REO50As and I love them for the street and track. After my next HPDE in Jan my tires will be gone and I'll need a new set. Wanted to get another set of the RE05As again but this new Sumitomo has me thinking especially with the much cheaper price and tireracks ranking. Is it too good to be true that this Sumitomo has more grip than the Bridgestone, almost performs just as good in the wet, and is much cheaper with double the treadwear?
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...ay.jsp?ttid=93
Has anyone had any experience or heard anything about these new tires? I know that their previous HTR Z tires just plain sucked because I used to have them. Right now I'm on REO50As and I love them for the street and track. After my next HPDE in Jan my tires will be gone and I'll need a new set. Wanted to get another set of the RE05As again but this new Sumitomo has me thinking especially with the much cheaper price and tireracks ranking. Is it too good to be true that this Sumitomo has more grip than the Bridgestone, almost performs just as good in the wet, and is much cheaper with double the treadwear?
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My BMW has a set of this on the stock rims. I like them a lot. I wish they would come in more sizes. I would love to put them on my Z. I don't know if it is the size, 205/50-17 but they are also pretty quiet and awesome on the rain. Because of my size, I do experience some side wall flex when pushed hard.
Last edited by MR_X; 12-01-2007 at 09:15 AM.
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MRX would you characterize the side wall flex as a result of your tire size strictly? Or is the side wall a bit soft on these tires? This tire really does sound great and I wouldn't mind trying them at least once since they are really cheap but if the side walls are soft that's not going to do me too good on HPDE days. And with 300 treadwear it'd be too long of a wait for them to run out to get a new set of tires.
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I was ANYTHING but impressed by the "II" version on my e30 bmw.
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I put 255 40 17s on the back of my stock 17s and I loved them (the HTRZII). These have a very wimpy looking tread pattern though. The ZII's looked awesome and performed awesome. For approximately $400 for a set you really can't deny the value here.
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Originally Posted by dklau33
MRX would you characterize the side wall flex as a result of your tire size strictly? Or is the side wall a bit soft on these tires? This tire really does sound great and I wouldn't mind trying them at least once since they are really cheap but if the side walls are soft that's not going to do me too good on HPDE days. And with 300 treadwear it'd be too long of a wait for them to run out to get a new set of tires.
Last edited by MR_X; 12-02-2007 at 06:53 AM.
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Originally Posted by DomZ
I put 255 40 17s on the back of my stock 17s and I loved them (the HTRZII). These have a very wimpy looking tread pattern though. The ZII's looked awesome and performed awesome. For approximately $400 for a set you really can't deny the value here.
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Originally Posted by dklau33
You are the only one I've ever heard of describing the Z II's as awesome. Did you ever track or autocross with those?
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I used to have the II's on my old Mazdaspeed Protege. I had to replace the tires as soon as I got it, so those tires were all I knew. I ended up selling it to my dad and got my Z. I went to drive it the other day a made it a mile up the road before I brought it back home. Sidewall flex was horrible, the car had sloppy turn-in and overall wasn't pleasent to drive. I keep throwing better ideas at him, hopefully this new tire is better...a lot better.
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I ordered this tire a couple of days ago and it looks like they still haven't processed my order. I don't autocross my Z or go to a track (other than the drag strip and even then I use slicks), though.
So, even if I were to give my impression of them, I don't know how valid they'll be to most of you guys.
Also, I was wondering if you guys read the full test results.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...ay.jsp?ttid=93
So, even if I were to give my impression of them, I don't know how valid they'll be to most of you guys.
Also, I was wondering if you guys read the full test results.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...ay.jsp?ttid=93
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Yes, I have that same link in my original post. That's the reason why I'm so interested in this tire. Tireracks tests has a lot of validity. Now I'm just looking for some real world feedback.
But please do come back and give your review/impressions on the tires after you have driven on them for at least a couple hundred of miles.
But please do come back and give your review/impressions on the tires after you have driven on them for at least a couple hundred of miles.
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What do you mean you wish they made more sizes? They make like every size. Way better size selection than most places. I think I may get these for myself for Christmas.... I have been looking at tires for months and can't find a matching set in the size I want. The size selection on these sold me.
http://www.groupawheels.com/Catalog....7-df6393aec643
http://www.groupawheels.com/Catalog....7-df6393aec643
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Originally Posted by dmoffitt
tirerack "tests" are survey results, last I checked. considering how the average american drives, the average survey answer is at best a vague guideline... hell, people still buy BUICKS
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If you want a well priced max performance tire get the khumo MX. spend a little more and buy a BFG KD
I forget what sizes they make them in, but you can get the run flat MX for the vette and use it on your wheel if its the right size
I forget what sizes they make them in, but you can get the run flat MX for the vette and use it on your wheel if its the right size