Road Racing question
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxqt-1oZ_pQ
my engine is stock.. just and exhaust and a reflash...
and the blue Z there is boosted, the 996 turbo is obviously boosted... but me, the spec miata, the lemons datsun 240 aren't.
what I feel is that you'll be another one to laugh at.
p.s. I was running kumho xs.. so no hoosier magic.
my engine is stock.. just and exhaust and a reflash...
and the blue Z there is boosted, the 996 turbo is obviously boosted... but me, the spec miata, the lemons datsun 240 aren't.
what I feel is that you'll be another one to laugh at.
p.s. I was running kumho xs.. so no hoosier magic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxqt-1oZ_pQ
my engine is stock.. just and exhaust and a reflash...
and the blue Z there is boosted, the 996 turbo is obviously boosted... but me, the spec miata, the lemons datsun 240 aren't.
what I feel is that you'll be another one to laugh at.
p.s. I was running kumho xs.. so no hoosier magic.
my engine is stock.. just and exhaust and a reflash...
and the blue Z there is boosted, the 996 turbo is obviously boosted... but me, the spec miata, the lemons datsun 240 aren't.
what I feel is that you'll be another one to laugh at.
p.s. I was running kumho xs.. so no hoosier magic.
REALLY not a good idea to remove the airbag when you're wearing on open face helmet... looks like it's time for a new helmet and a H&N restraint device of some sort my friend
Very heads-up move there @ 2:33 driving off line behind that car that clearly blew something (Z32?)... but I gotta give you a hard time for something...
REALLY not a good idea to remove the airbag when you're wearing on open face helmet... looks like it's time for a new helmet and a H&N restraint device of some sort my friend
REALLY not a good idea to remove the airbag when you're wearing on open face helmet... looks like it's time for a new helmet and a H&N restraint device of some sort my friend
yeah.. on the Z32 that blew up I went off the line to avoid to build up oil on the tires on the straight.... (another lesson learned in the hard way long time ago)
I am interested to hear your opinion of Time Attack.
To the OP, running a turbo kit will NOT automatically put you in Modified class. You can run a 350Z with a twin turbo system, and still compete in Street Class. If you set the car up right, and learn to drive really well, you will be super competitive. I would love to see someone do this actually, becuase the Evo's and STi's always seem to clean up in Street Class.
With regards to powerband, in a perfect world of course we'd all like tons of power and trq from idle to redline. But like everything, there is a tradeoff. What is "better" can be hard to establish. Depends a lot on the track, but since the 350Z has very good midrange torq from the factory, I would prefer a little more top end, even at the expense of some midrange or bottom end trq. If you drive the car correctly, you will have all the trq and power you need from about 3500rpm to redline.
To the OP, running a turbo kit will NOT automatically put you in Modified class. You can run a 350Z with a twin turbo system, and still compete in Street Class. If you set the car up right, and learn to drive really well, you will be super competitive. I would love to see someone do this actually, becuase the Evo's and STi's always seem to clean up in Street Class.
With regards to powerband, in a perfect world of course we'd all like tons of power and trq from idle to redline. But like everything, there is a tradeoff. What is "better" can be hard to establish. Depends a lot on the track, but since the 350Z has very good midrange torq from the factory, I would prefer a little more top end, even at the expense of some midrange or bottom end trq. If you drive the car correctly, you will have all the trq and power you need from about 3500rpm to redline.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxqt-1oZ_pQ
my engine is stock.. just and exhaust and a reflash...
and the blue Z there is boosted, the 996 turbo is obviously boosted... but me, the spec miata, the lemons datsun 240 aren't.
what I feel is that you'll be another one to laugh at.
p.s. I was running kumho xs.. so no hoosier magic.
my engine is stock.. just and exhaust and a reflash...
and the blue Z there is boosted, the 996 turbo is obviously boosted... but me, the spec miata, the lemons datsun 240 aren't.
what I feel is that you'll be another one to laugh at.
p.s. I was running kumho xs.. so no hoosier magic.
BTW, you or that DB Z33 at 4:10 is clearly in the wrong run group. Same goes for the MB at 7:35.
Last edited by scotts300; Aug 11, 2009 at 07:51 AM.
yes, was Kuah with the SPL Z32.
the DB TT Z33 was driven in the advanced group by an instructor
the MB was an instructor at MSR testing the car I guess.
The engine is fine though, admittedly at the time I thought the problem was a lot more serious, since I was "breaking in" the engine at 22psi of boost...
BTW - great lap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAKVX...eature=related
I've used that same telemetry system before, however, was there a way that you knew you had recorded your best lap (I saw the arm pump)?
Kuah tells me he blew an oil line. Doh!
BTW - great lap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAKVX...eature=related
I've used that same telemetry system before, however, was there a way that you knew you had recorded your best lap (I saw the arm pump)?
BTW - great lap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAKVX...eature=related
I've used that same telemetry system before, however, was there a way that you knew you had recorded your best lap (I saw the arm pump)?

was ONLY 2 sessions that I was lapping in the 1.50.x where x was 0, 1, 2 or 3.... when it did show 1.49.6 I was too happy. then I started to slow down in the 1.50.x again just to have fun and mess with the other guys




actually also because my clutch was slipping, one of the steering wheel CV joint start having some play (the lower one just before the power steering rack), my brake pads where close to the end and after 5 sessions I was "a little" worn out with 100+ degrees outside in the afternoon.
one of the biggest issue was the heat soak with that temperature...
I had my best lap of the session after one or two full laps than I was just getting slower.
edit: nismo 350z in 1.49.6 http://www.vimeo.com/5257086
lotus exige in 1.49.4 http://www.vimeo.com/5990059
I'll try to edit them together to check the difference.
btw...
Last edited by Ataru074; Aug 11, 2009 at 09:49 AM.
when it did show 1.49.6 I was too happy.
edit: nismo 350z in 1.49.6 http://www.vimeo.com/5257086
lotus exige in 1.49.4 http://www.vimeo.com/5990059
edit: nismo 350z in 1.49.6 http://www.vimeo.com/5257086
lotus exige in 1.49.4 http://www.vimeo.com/5990059
BTW, your line was much better than that Exige. Sorry, OP, for the thread jack.
what I do is to setup the track using google earth at home, setup the splits "offline" using the rule of "major straights" and than use the speed in the first couple of sessions just to improve the line and the exit speed where it does matter...
when I start seeing that I'm consistent with that I switch to lap timing and to work out the "connections'
Last edited by Ataru074; Aug 11, 2009 at 11:24 AM.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxqt-1oZ_pQ
my engine is stock.. just and exhaust and a reflash...
and the blue Z there is boosted, the 996 turbo is obviously boosted... but me, the spec miata, the lemons datsun 240 aren't.
what I feel is that you'll be another one to laugh at.
p.s. I was running kumho xs.. so no hoosier magic.
my engine is stock.. just and exhaust and a reflash...
and the blue Z there is boosted, the 996 turbo is obviously boosted... but me, the spec miata, the lemons datsun 240 aren't.
what I feel is that you'll be another one to laugh at.
p.s. I was running kumho xs.. so no hoosier magic.
to be honest that blue z33 owner drove like he was TOO worried about curbing his chrome wheels/crackin his body kit. lol
so yeah you laugh at him all you want. he wasnt even a serious competitor.
its almost like somebody sayin just because someone is 6 foot 5 they can automatically play basketball. height dont mean **** if you can use it. BUT if you DO have skills the taller you are the better. ie. HP aint **** if you cant control it. BUT if you CAN CONTROL it the MORE the BETTER. that boost'd Z wasnt **** because he couldnt MAXIMIZE/CONTROL his power. you were better than him because you COULD MAXIMIZE/CONTROL your POWER.
1. Driver
2. Tires
3. Brake set-up
4. Suspension
5. Horsepower and aero compete for fifth/sixth
to be honest that blue z33 owner drove like he was TOO worried about curbing his chrome wheels/crackin his body kit. lol
so yeah you laugh at him all you want. he wasnt even a serious competitor.
its almost like somebody sayin just because someone is 6 foot 5 they can automatically play basketball. height dont mean **** if you can use it. BUT if you DO have skills the taller you are the better. ie. HP aint **** if you cant control it. BUT if you CAN CONTROL it the MORE the BETTER. that boost'd Z wasnt **** because he couldnt MAXIMIZE/CONTROL his power. you were better than him because you COULD MAXIMIZE/CONTROL your POWER.
so yeah you laugh at him all you want. he wasnt even a serious competitor.
its almost like somebody sayin just because someone is 6 foot 5 they can automatically play basketball. height dont mean **** if you can use it. BUT if you DO have skills the taller you are the better. ie. HP aint **** if you cant control it. BUT if you CAN CONTROL it the MORE the BETTER. that boost'd Z wasnt **** because he couldnt MAXIMIZE/CONTROL his power. you were better than him because you COULD MAXIMIZE/CONTROL your POWER.
go ahead and have fun.
- Driver
- driver
- driver
- brake pads and fluids
- Driver again
- driver
- driver
- Better street tires
- Driver
- driver
- driver
- Suspension tweeks (Sways, etc)
- Driver again
- driver
- driver
- driver
- driver
- Dot-R tires
- Driver again
- driver
- driver
- Suspension again
- Driver
- driver
- driver
- brakes revisited
- Driver
- driver
- driver
- HP maybe
- driver
- driver
- driver
so on and etc
Last edited by mhoward1; Aug 12, 2009 at 04:49 AM.
Mines a little different
so on and etc
- Driver
- driver
- driver
- brake pads and fluids
- Driver again
- driver
- driver
- Better street tires
- Driver
- driver
- driver
- Suspension tweeks (Sways, etc)
- Driver again
- driver
- driver
- driver
- driver
- Dot-R tires
- Driver again
- driver
- driver
- Suspension again
- Driver
- driver
- driver
- brakes revisited
- Driver
- driver
- driver
- HP maybe
- driver
- driver
- driver
so on and etc
HELL yeah power is important, you think that cyber evo makes it aound the tsukuba circuit in approx 54 sec with only 287 HP?????? or the mazda 787b runs great at 24hr endurance races with stock power output from TWO 13b motors????
NO... these cars have TONS of power with great Drivers. LOok at cheston's Z. he does time attack and has 550whp, Furthermore, the guy we all love Sharif from Forged Perfotmance has a high horsepower (500whp +) GTR he races. What about the M-Works 350z that runs at buttonwillow. that car was TONS of power.
So i dont see why there are stone faces. and people replying back like im idiot. YES driver/suspension are key but power also plays A GOOD ROLE in fast lap time. Im just concerned on how to model my POWERBAND when i get my tune in a couple of weeks.
NO... these cars have TONS of power with great Drivers. LOok at cheston's Z. he does time attack and has 550whp, Furthermore, the guy we all love Sharif from Forged Perfotmance has a high horsepower (500whp +) GTR he races. What about the M-Works 350z that runs at buttonwillow. that car was TONS of power.
So i dont see why there are stone faces. and people replying back like im idiot. YES driver/suspension are key but power also plays A GOOD ROLE in fast lap time. Im just concerned on how to model my POWERBAND when i get my tune in a couple of weeks.



