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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 06:46 AM
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Hey dudes I'm at a crossroad with my next mod.

Im a fan of making small changes, feeling them out, tuning them for the difference, then proceeding to the next mod.

I have a number of lapping days under my belt and the car is slowly progressing into something I love to drive on the street and track.

However, now Im looking for the next mod to help me along.

I run adjustable sway bars with 275/40/17 NT-01's (at the track), the car is very neutral in handling and with the Cusco RS LSD my exit speeds have jumped dramatically.

My question now, is what is the next step to help with faster entry speeds and cornering in general.

SPL Adjustable A-Arms or Coilovers that would drop the car, tighten up body roll, help with settling and reboud and probably achieve some amount of negative camber with a 1" drop lets say.

I have SPC Adjustable Rear Arms and Toe bolts sitting in their boxes currently, 1 is a small mod, 1 is a larger more costly mod.

Thoughts?

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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 07:11 AM
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I'd go for camber arms... you'll need it regardless of the coilovers.
get also a pyrometer to find out which is the camber you need.
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 07:22 AM
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I have a laser pyrometer that I use, I normally just chalk my tires though and adjust accordingly with tire pressure.

Thanks for the input.
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 05:52 AM
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Bump for the morning
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 06:00 AM
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its a hard toss up.....

but i would say coilovers to get rid of the oem suspension body roll, and be able to stiffen up the ride........

of course like you said, with the height you set the car, will affect camber, so then i would say the SPL's as your next mod..

I did coilovers first and to me was worth it for sure........i did a 1-1.25 drop and have had my fronts at -1.7 due to it..

I just now got SPL UCA's that im installing this week..

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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 06:17 AM
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Good info, I assume you'll do one of your stellar DIY's
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Good info, I assume you'll do one of your stellar DIY's
ha.ha...on the SPL UCA install.....well there isn't much too it really.....
Didn't think it would really need a DIY....i guess i can take pics and make one..

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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 07:40 AM
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bump for more input?
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 07:47 AM
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I played this out in my head a bit more after re-reading your post:
You have the rear alignment stuff already in boxes......my vote goes heavy to coil overs as you will see more improvement on those over adjusting more neg camber out of arms for sure...the difference will be marginal in adjustments with a proper drop the coilovers will yield....

height drop, body roll, dampening, dig, and camber you will already get out of a decent drop...etc

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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 09:46 AM
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I guess you're right, its either I chose something that does 1 thing specifically (adjusting camber/toe) or get something that does all these things (the outcome of dropping) + more.

Hmm...
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 04:17 AM
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^ exactly...

To date, the best mods i have done on my car have been
Coilovers
Nismo LSD
Clutch

18 foot trailer for events.

Everything else has been accessories...camber kit, uca's, gt-spec, solid nismo mass dampers braces, nismo diff cover, harness bar, harnesses, end links, intake, etc..etc...

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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 09:48 AM
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Thanks DUUUUDE
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 10:26 AM
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My question now, is what is the next step to help with faster entry speeds
Less braking.
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 10:28 AM
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lol better lines, smoother driving right...
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What did you decide?

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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 11:51 AM
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That I can't afford the C/O's Adam at Z1 recommened lol

However I think I will skip the UCA's and go with Coilovers when the time is right, I'm running Mosport in May and I think I feel more comfortable on the suspension I know currently rather than making any drastic changes prior.

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Originally Posted by RandomHer0
That I can't afford the C/O's Adam at Z1 recommened lol

However I think I will skip the UCA's and go with Coilovers when the time is right, I'm running Mosport in May and I think I feel more comfortable on the suspension I know currently rather than making any drastic changes prior.

Lame? lol

not lame.........

but i wouldn't let that stop ya........i would get them and install and tweak prior.......and of course get what you can afford and will be happy with..

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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 04:17 AM
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Yeah it wont stop me entirely, and I will most likely go through with it, maybe in April, we'll see. I just dropped a buttload on a bride seat and OS Giken Clutch.

The car sits in storage for the time being anyways but atleast I know which route I will take.

BTW Adam recommended the Cusco Zero 2 for my application

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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by RandomHer0
BTW Adam recommended the Cusco Zero 2 for my application
Nice option!
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 01:40 PM
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I'm running the Tein monoflex and have the darned thing almost as high as it will let me go. With my SPL a-arms up front (version 2, don't think they sell v1 anymore), at max positive camber, I am at -1.8 both sides. The SPL v2 front a arms allow only stock + 1 degree, unlike the v1. The v2 is much easier to adjust though and almost impossible for an alignment guy to screw up (which is what happened to my v1).

If you're looking for *more* negative camber - no problem there. You'll get it just from the drop. The a arms will allow several degrees more (negative).
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