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Old 09-22-2011, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by travismaser
so im thinking about trying to run a 305 all the way around the car...on some RPF1's...should i go with a 10.5 all around??? my fenders are already rolled and flaired out some from doing to stupid hella flush stuff...but im switching it up and doing a whole new setup...
Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
305s probably fit in the front, but you'd need to run a good amount of negative camber, not be too low (I'd say no more than an inch?), and/or need wheels with relatively high offset (+20s or +30s, but too high of an offset means your wheel/tire may hit the suspension components).
305s can fit all around, I have done so on 10" RPF1 +38 wheels, though you'll need some front spacers. It will not (easily) work with the 10.5 +15 RPF1 wheels. These are the Kumho V710 autox tire, as Hoosiers do not come in 305. Making a 315 work in the rear is cake, making it fit in the front is another challenge, but I'm working on it.

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Old 09-22-2011, 09:48 AM
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Updated post #21 with some pics.
Old 09-22-2011, 11:22 AM
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Very nice! I can't wait to run a fat square setup. Looking really good Scott.
Old 09-22-2011, 02:21 PM
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Scott, so are you saying it would be pretty difficult to run an 18X10.5 RPF1 with a 315 on +15 offset? even with spacers? is that just because of the fender hitting the tire or suspension parts? if its the fender then i may be interested in trying it out!
Old 09-22-2011, 03:03 PM
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17X9 MB weapons, RS3 255/40/17, Eibach sportlines, Kinetix a-arms.
Cars well balanced and a lot of fun.

https://my350z.com/forum/attachment....1&d=1316732143


Difference between 245/40/18 and 255/40/17 RS3's Hancook really stretched the sizing on the 255
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PCA autocross 2nd best time overall behind C5 vette on R-comps
http://youtu.be/7Ydl6KGbxIc
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Old 09-22-2011, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
What would be the reasoning for less negative camber on a lesser HP car vs a higher HP car?
Better contact patch on corner exit, resulting in being able to put the power down earlier and harder. Steve Mitchell (M-Works) runs slightly over -1 on his car.
Old 09-22-2011, 04:20 PM
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255/40/17 RS3s FTW! $125 a tire, cant beat it!
thats why I want 17x9.5 +18 RPF1s

Originally Posted by steidz
17X9 MB weapons, RS3 255/40/17, Eibach sportlines, Kinetix a-arms.
Cars well balanced and a lot of fun.

https://my350z.com/forum/attachment....1&d=1316732143


Difference between 245/40/18 and 255/40/17 RS3's Hancook really stretched the sizing on the 255
https://my350z.com/forum/attachment....1&d=1316732143

https://my350z.com/forum/attachment....1&d=1316732143

PCA autocross 2nd best time overall behind C5 vette on R-comps
http://youtu.be/7Ydl6KGbxIc
Old 09-22-2011, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SE5spd
255/40/17 RS3s FTW! $125 a tire, cant beat it!
thats why I want 17x9.5 +18 RPF1s

Yep its a great deal, you gearing shortens a bit due to a shorter overall tire but not bad. I am about 4 mph less at 60(indicated) than the stock size.

Looking at the specs on tire rack and the 255/17 width is only one/tenth of an inch less than the 285/18 RS3. Pretty good deal.

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Old 09-22-2011, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
Better contact patch on corner exit, resulting in being able to put the power down earlier and harder. Steve Mitchell (M-Works) runs slightly over -1 on his car.
Going strictly by the bolded, wouldn't it make more sense to have less camber on a higher HP car than the lower HP then, not the other way around, so that you have more contact patch on corner exit? I'm still not getting why you want less neg camber with lower HP car or why the HP even matters with respect to camber. I'm saying with all other factors, like weight, suspension, etc being equal of course.
Old 09-22-2011, 05:49 PM
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17x8.5 rpfs running 255/40 RS3s (love this tire!)

18x9.5 rpfs running a048s but might try R6s next year. Will only use for competition if they can shave enough time off.





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Originally Posted by terrasmak
with high HP you should run lower camber. I would say max of 1.8 and a Target of 1.5 in the rear. I don't even run 2.5 camber on the rear of my NA car.
Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
Going strictly by the bolded, wouldn't it make more sense to have less camber on a higher HP car than the lower HP then, not the other way around, so that you have more contact patch on corner exit? I'm still not getting why you want less neg camber with lower HP car or why the HP even matters with respect to camber. I'm saying with all other factors, like weight, suspension, etc being equal of course.
3 5 0 did you just miss read terrasmak quote at top. He is saying the same thing you are. High HP = less neg camber for a flatter contact patch.
Old 09-22-2011, 06:46 PM
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Ditched my 19's and installed these today...

SSR Type F -
18x9.5 +12 w/ 10mm Spacer - 255/35/18
18x10.5 +15 - 295/35/18

Toyo T1R's for now, hopefully get some R6's for Christmas...


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Old 09-22-2011, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
Going strictly by the bolded, wouldn't it make more sense to have less camber on a higher HP car than the lower HP then, not the other way around, so that you have more contact patch on corner exit? I'm still not getting why you want less neg camber with lower HP car or why the HP even matters with respect to camber. I'm saying with all other factors, like weight, suspension, etc being equal of course.
With less camber you sacrifice corner speed but gain added traction for straight line acceleration. More camber = less contact patch for forward acceleration.

The sooner you can go to WOT the better, expecially for a high HP car. An NA Z is a cross between a point and shoot car and a momentum car. An example, S2K is more of a momentum car than a Z, also uses more rear camber.
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Originally Posted by steidz
3 5 0 did you just miss read terrasmak quote at top. He is saying the same thing you are. High HP = less neg camber for a flatter contact patch.
ROFL! Thank you for pointing out my inability to read.
Old 09-24-2011, 02:44 PM
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17x10" +35 5zigen FN01R-c with 275/40/17 Kumho XS all around
15mm front / 20mm rear spacers mostly because they make my DD wheels fit better. I plan to go to 295/35 Kumho XS all around next season and will probably need slightly smaller spacers.
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Any particular reason why you don't want to try a different tire?
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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz
Any particular reason why you don't want to try a different tire?
None of the other "good" street tires are made that wide in a 17 except for the Nitto NT05 which I haven't heard great things about. I'll eventually go to Hoosiers, but since I just seriously got into autox this year I want to stay on street tires for a couple seasons.
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Old 09-25-2011, 01:06 PM
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why so many stickers?
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....adds horsepower.



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