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Old 01-31-2004, 08:00 AM
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Originally posted by Gsedan35
Look at the right rear tire in that pic, not very good contact patch.
LOL...look at the "contact patch" of the CONE! So was the cone ruled in or out after it stopped wobbling?
Old 02-03-2004, 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by rktjhn
The Z is a harder car to learn to drive vs the Honda
I'm not quite sure where this comment comes from. Have you had the chance to drive an S2000? They're not very forgiving. Perhaps you missed Andy and Stephen's spins in Phoenix? 3 or 4 between them...
Old 02-03-2004, 02:05 PM
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Will 350evo swaybars put my stock Z into BSP? Hmm... that would be very unfortunate... since I'm pretty sure I need them. And I'm pretty sure I don't wont to be in BSP in my only second year in Autox...
Old 02-04-2004, 04:30 AM
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I am pretty sure they will put you in in BSP.
Old 02-04-2004, 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by Vlad
Will 350evo swaybars put my stock Z into BSP? Hmm... that would be very unfortunate... since I'm pretty sure I need them. And I'm pretty sure I don't wont to be in BSP in my only second year in Autox...
You are allowed to change the front swaybar but not the rear. I know how you feel about going to BSP, so I will probably just get the EVO front sway and the Koni shocks which will let me stay in BS.

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Old 02-24-2004, 06:05 PM
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damn, that one BMW Z4 is starting to look real strong in B Stock too
Old 02-24-2004, 06:14 PM
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damn, that one BMW Z4 is starting to look real strong in B Stock too
Old 02-25-2004, 03:12 AM
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A guy here at work told me they are creating like 4 new ST classes. He thought the Z would fall in to STX2. Anyone have more info on this? I'll see what I can find.
Old 02-25-2004, 04:49 AM
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Originally posted by Jewelz350
A guy here at work told me they are creating like 4 new ST classes. He thought the Z would fall in to STX2. Anyone have more info on this? I'll see what I can find.
Here you go, the New ST classes straight from the horses mouth:
The Solo Events Board met at the SCCA National Convention in Kansas
City February 6th through 8th. Attending were SEB Chairman Colan Arnold, board members Chris Dorsey, Mari Clements, Ron Bauer, Andy Hollis, Marcus Merideth, Mark Sipe, and Mark Sirota. Also attending were Tasha Goodale, Howard Duncan and Doug Gill of the National Staff, and BOD liaison Bob Introne.

During this meeting, the SEB discussed and approved the addition of two
supplemental classes to National Tour events; STS2 and STU. These
classes reflect what the SEB envisions to be the continued growth of the Street Touring category, and are being evaluated in conjunction with
evaluation of the feasibility of combining several less-subscribed classes and of restructuring some less-subscribed preparation categories.

Reflecting the success of the ST concept both nationally and regionally, the two supplemental classes were developed as the next logical steps in
the progression of this category. Variants of one or both of these classes
are already being offered in several regions across the country.

STS2 will follow the STS rule set, but the eligible cars will be
restricted to two-seaters with engine displacements of 1.8 liters or less. This class will provide a home for a number of popular vehicles, including the Honda CRX and del Sol, Mazda RX7 (non-turbo, '79-'92) and Miata ('90-'97), Toyota MR2 ('85-'89), as well as other similar vehicles. STS category rules 14.1 to 14.10 apply. Further, as in STS, only original equipment viscous limited slip differentials are legal in STS-2. Excluded vehicles include Lotus (all), Mazda Miata (99+), and Toyota MR2 ('91-'95 and '00+).

STU will follow the STX rule set, but will raise the displacement limit
for otherwise STX-legal vehicles to 3.1 liters for forced induction and to
unlimited displacement for natural aspiration. To accommodate the
greater power of these vehicles, restrictions on wheel width are lifted and the maximum tire width will be increased to 275 for front or rear wheel
drive vehicles (but will remain at 245 for AWD vehicles). Other than these limited exceptions, the STX rule set as described in 14.11 applies.
This class extends the Street Touring concept to cars including the Audi S4, BMW M3 (E36), Chevrolet Camaro, Dodge Neon SRT-4, Ford Mustang, Mazda RX-8, Mitsubishi Lancer Evo. 8, Pontiac Firebird, Pontiac GTO, Subaru WRX STi, Volvo S60 R, and Toyota Supra. Excluded vehicles include the E46 M3 and the E39 M5.

In conjunction with the planned evolution of this category and of the
sport as a whole, these two supplemental classes will not be considered for full national status until 2007. One or both classes could then potentially be recommended for full national status provided that rules stability is attained, member participation is strong, and the classes continue to reflect the needs of the current enthusiast market.

-Chris Dorsey
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Old 02-25-2004, 09:16 AM
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those are only supplemental classes (don't have full National status before 2007) and I don't think the 350Z qualifies

oh, there's only two new supplemental classes, not four
Old 02-25-2004, 10:55 PM
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So what is the minimal $ I need to spend on shocks to feel the results? What is DA in Penske DA stands for?
Old 03-01-2004, 10:57 PM
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DA = Double adjustable = rebound damping adjustable and compression damping ajustable

SA = single adjustable - not sure if rebound or compression is more commonly chosen as the adjustable one

I think you can get shocks that adjust even more, and have a high speed compression, low speed compression, high speed rebound, and low speed rebout adjustment. Not sure how high the adjustments go (I think I've heard of 6 way) but SCCA limits you to a double adjusatble (and they can't be adjustable from within the car unless the vehicle was equipped that way stock).

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