Tein Suspension: Basic Kit vs. Flex Kit
#1
Tein Suspension: Basic Kit vs. Flex Kit
Hey Guys,
What is everyone's opinion on the Tein Basic Setup vs. the Tein Flex Setup for the 350Z? I am defiantly leaning towards the Basic setup mainly because of cost but I defiantly don’t want to sacrifice my ride quality either.
What is everyone’s experience with these setups? Or if you have another adjustable coil setup that you would like to recommend?
Thanks in advance,
Steve
What is everyone's opinion on the Tein Basic Setup vs. the Tein Flex Setup for the 350Z? I am defiantly leaning towards the Basic setup mainly because of cost but I defiantly don’t want to sacrifice my ride quality either.
What is everyone’s experience with these setups? Or if you have another adjustable coil setup that you would like to recommend?
Thanks in advance,
Steve
#3
Yep, same question. If you don't plan on tracking it and just want an adjustable ride height with good comfort, then I would go with basics. If you want to be able to adjust your dampening, for the street and track, then go with the Flexs. I have had Tein Basics on a previous car and loved the ride.
#4
Hey King,
You basically answered all my questions. I don’t plan on racing the car; I just plan on driving it aggressively and having fun with it. But I defiantly don’t want a harsh ride when I am taking road trips, ya know. I found a good deal on the basic kit for $668.00.
Anybody found a better price than that?
Thanks guys,
Steve
You basically answered all my questions. I don’t plan on racing the car; I just plan on driving it aggressively and having fun with it. But I defiantly don’t want a harsh ride when I am taking road trips, ya know. I found a good deal on the basic kit for $668.00.
Anybody found a better price than that?
Thanks guys,
Steve
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#8
It is a impossibility to toss a suspension on any car that has spring rates that are 114% stiffer then oem and not pay a ride quality price. Many owners reviews of the Flex suspension report a harsh ride quality. And when told that some owner claim the system can ride like oem, Tein's own techs told me, " your kidding right, their's no way with springs that stiff it can ride like oem".
Also, you have to be very carefull, some Flex users actually have a different setup then Tein sell's now. When the system first came out it used softer spring rates then they use now.
Tein Flex (twin tube construction, adjustable dampners
Full-length adjustment and height adjustment for separate setting of the height and spring preload (important feature, other Teins do NOT have the abilitiy to alter ride height and not effect preload and piston travel)
Can use Teins EDFC in car dampner adjustment system
Spring rates in lbs 672/672
Stiffer then oem springs by F+114% R+98
Transfers +16% roll stiffness to front
Side Note: Extremely high spring rates mean even when the adjustable damping is set as low as possible, you may not find ride quality happiness IF ride quality is of concern, several reports of this setups harshness exist Yet a few owner comment’s of a “like stock ride quality” also exist. However given the fact that they use a spring stiffness that’s over 100% stiffer then oem, if ride quality is of concern, either hitch a ride in a car equipped with them or make a different choice. In addition, several review’s have been done by people actually having the original more softly sprung Tein Flex coilovers do not take their comments to mean the same as the one using the current product, the original product specs are listed below under Tein Flex JDM.
Tein Flex JDM specs (can be special ordered est 6-8 weeks delivery)
Full-length adjustment and height adjustment for separate setting of the height and spring preload
Can use Teins EDFC in car dampner adjustment system
Spring rates in lbs 560/560
Stiffer then oem springs by F+78% R+64%
Transfers 14% roll stiffness to front
Side Note: This is the original specs first offered in the U.S. with the Flex, shortly after it’s introduction the specs changed to those listed further above (672/672)
Tein Basic (twin tube construction, non adjustable dampners )
Spring rates in lbs 504/504
Stiffer then oem by F+61% R+43%
Transfers +18% roll stiffness to front
Side Note: Excellent value at it’s price point, a budget performance coilover with several excellent owner reviews
Another choice to consider if ride quality and performance are desired would be the HKS RS coilover($1410 in the vendor marketplace section)
Also, you have to be very carefull, some Flex users actually have a different setup then Tein sell's now. When the system first came out it used softer spring rates then they use now.
Tein Flex (twin tube construction, adjustable dampners
Full-length adjustment and height adjustment for separate setting of the height and spring preload (important feature, other Teins do NOT have the abilitiy to alter ride height and not effect preload and piston travel)
Can use Teins EDFC in car dampner adjustment system
Spring rates in lbs 672/672
Stiffer then oem springs by F+114% R+98
Transfers +16% roll stiffness to front
Side Note: Extremely high spring rates mean even when the adjustable damping is set as low as possible, you may not find ride quality happiness IF ride quality is of concern, several reports of this setups harshness exist Yet a few owner comment’s of a “like stock ride quality” also exist. However given the fact that they use a spring stiffness that’s over 100% stiffer then oem, if ride quality is of concern, either hitch a ride in a car equipped with them or make a different choice. In addition, several review’s have been done by people actually having the original more softly sprung Tein Flex coilovers do not take their comments to mean the same as the one using the current product, the original product specs are listed below under Tein Flex JDM.
Tein Flex JDM specs (can be special ordered est 6-8 weeks delivery)
Full-length adjustment and height adjustment for separate setting of the height and spring preload
Can use Teins EDFC in car dampner adjustment system
Spring rates in lbs 560/560
Stiffer then oem springs by F+78% R+64%
Transfers 14% roll stiffness to front
Side Note: This is the original specs first offered in the U.S. with the Flex, shortly after it’s introduction the specs changed to those listed further above (672/672)
Tein Basic (twin tube construction, non adjustable dampners )
Spring rates in lbs 504/504
Stiffer then oem by F+61% R+43%
Transfers +18% roll stiffness to front
Side Note: Excellent value at it’s price point, a budget performance coilover with several excellent owner reviews
Another choice to consider if ride quality and performance are desired would be the HKS RS coilover($1410 in the vendor marketplace section)
#9
Very informative insight Gsedan35, that's what i want to hear.
sorry not to jack the post, but for people who wants performance when they track the car as well as concerning the ride quality on everyday driving, will the Cusco Zero2 be an alternative?
Thanks all
sorry not to jack the post, but for people who wants performance when they track the car as well as concerning the ride quality on everyday driving, will the Cusco Zero2 be an alternative?
Thanks all
#10
Originally posted by homiusang
Very informative insight Gsedan35, that's what i want to hear.
sorry not to jack the post, but for people who wants performance when they track the car as well as concerning the ride quality on everyday driving, will the Cusco Zero2 be an alternative?
Thanks all
Very informative insight Gsedan35, that's what i want to hear.
sorry not to jack the post, but for people who wants performance when they track the car as well as concerning the ride quality on everyday driving, will the Cusco Zero2 be an alternative?
Thanks all
Cusco Zero 1&2 (Monotube, Zero1=non adjustable dampner, Zero2=adjustable dampner)
Full-length adjustment and height adjustment for separate setting of the height and spring preload
Spring rates in lbs560/392
Stiffer then oem by F+78% R+15%
Transfers +63% roll stiffness to front (no they do not run their rear springs on the dampner body, oem location, seen them on the car with my own eyes.)
#11
so for the occasional tracker that wants a nice ride and good handling, and has no idea how to really adjust dampening by himself and doesnt care 2, oh and hes on a budge, the basics would be a pretty good choice? along with hotchkis sways? (anyone wanna explain what sways do? since im only getting them cause everyone swears on these sway bars...)
#12
Originally posted by bhk1004
so for the occasional tracker that wants a nice ride and good handling, and has no idea how to really adjust dampening by himself and doesnt care 2, oh and hes on a budge, the basics would be a pretty good choice? along with hotchkis sways? (anyone wanna explain what sways do? since im only getting them cause everyone swears on these sway bars...)
so for the occasional tracker that wants a nice ride and good handling, and has no idea how to really adjust dampening by himself and doesnt care 2, oh and hes on a budge, the basics would be a pretty good choice? along with hotchkis sways? (anyone wanna explain what sways do? since im only getting them cause everyone swears on these sway bars...)
#14
EDFC is very gimmicky in all honesty......and the Basic is just that, basic...no adjustable dampening, but very comfy, very soft, and gets the job done for a very modest price
Zero2's are an awesome setup IMHO, though it takes some dialing in to get them right.
I was impressed by the HKS RS"s when I drove them....great predictable handling at the limit, and nice, crisp turn in response. Also were absolutely silent over rough roads, which was nice
If you do chose the Cusco's, I highly recommend the non pillow version...over rough roads, tjhe PBM's can be a tad noisy. I swapped to the std mounts in my car, and its now the perfect setup for me
Zero2's are an awesome setup IMHO, though it takes some dialing in to get them right.
I was impressed by the HKS RS"s when I drove them....great predictable handling at the limit, and nice, crisp turn in response. Also were absolutely silent over rough roads, which was nice
If you do chose the Cusco's, I highly recommend the non pillow version...over rough roads, tjhe PBM's can be a tad noisy. I swapped to the std mounts in my car, and its now the perfect setup for me
#16
Originally posted by m|2. B|2 ya|\|
when you say gimmicky, what exactly do you mean??? Breaks allot??
when you say gimmicky, what exactly do you mean??? Breaks allot??
#18
Originally posted by TwiZted
SO....if i were to buy the basics I would need the front A-arms and rear camber adjusters right?
SO....if i were to buy the basics I would need the front A-arms and rear camber adjusters right?
#20
I wan't even considering coil-overs (because of price) until I ran across these basics. Just how much can you lower the car? I see a lot of Z's that look too high in the rear after being lowered, and I assume with the Tein Basics I can set the car (height wise) however I want.
For every adjustment in suspension = another trip to the alignment shop right? That's takes the fun out of being able to adjust it though. This is a really good bang for the buck considering the cost of shocks.]
Prior to this I was planning on Eibach, but didn't know how long I could go on my stock shocks. I think the Tein Basics might be in my future. My car is just a daily driver; it will never be tracked.
For every adjustment in suspension = another trip to the alignment shop right? That's takes the fun out of being able to adjust it though. This is a really good bang for the buck considering the cost of shocks.]
Prior to this I was planning on Eibach, but didn't know how long I could go on my stock shocks. I think the Tein Basics might be in my future. My car is just a daily driver; it will never be tracked.