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Old 10-28-2005, 09:43 PM
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what are these used for?
Old 10-28-2005, 10:15 PM
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end links to sway bars, stiffer.
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Heim joints are used to replace the rubber bushings. Rubber bushings have compliance and slop. Heim Joints are metal to metal contact. No room for slop.

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They are used to remove any pre-load on the sway bars. Come in handy when corner weighing a car. They also make sway bar adjustments easier, assuming you have adjustable bars!
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will they work with any sway bar?
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they should.
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$310 is a mighty steep price. I don' think I could part with that kinda cash for these. You could get a sweet lookin hooker and a 6 pack of Milwauke's best for that.

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Originally Posted by EnthuZ
They are used to remove any pre-load on the sway bars. Come in handy when corner weighing a car. They also make sway bar adjustments easier, assuming you have adjustable bars!
The heim-joint itself is not what removes the pre-load. The threaded link between the two heim-joints allows you to lengthen or shorten the length of the swaybar link, this is how you remove the pre-load.

$310 is actually a reasonable price. If you ever price out good spherical bearings you will understand why these links cost so much, the bearings themselves are very expensive.
Old 10-29-2005, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JETPILOT
$310 is a mighty steep price. I don' think I could part with that kinda cash for these. You could get a sweet lookin hooker and a 6 pack of Milwauke's best for that.

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You should start a group buy.
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A group buy on hookers and beer? Wow.... why didn't I think ofthat before.

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Originally Posted by JETPILOT
A group buy on hookers and beer? Wow.... why didn't I think ofthat before.

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ROFLMAO!!!!!

A group buy on the end links wouldn't be a bad idea though...
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I can set up a group buy price on these endlinks... Ill check my pricing on monday...

They will work with any sway bar...

They are also adjustable...

Using these with a good high quality sway bar like the NISMO would be a better option then some other "Adjustable" sway bars on the market...

http://performancenissanparts.com/ca...+joint&x=0&y=0
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Originally Posted by Jason@Performance

Using these with a good high quality sway bar like the NISMO would be a better option then some other "Adjustable" sway bars on the market...
What are you talking about? The links don't alter sway bar rates.

BTW....I'm interested in the group buy.
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Originally Posted by EnthuZ
What are you talking about? The links don't alter sway bar rates.

BTW....I'm interested in the group buy.
So if you make the drop links shorter it doesnt essentially make the sway bar effect greater?

on the "adjustable" sway bars, moving to a different hole doesnt make the sway bar stiffer, that always stays the same... It just limits the movement of the sway bar links and the sway bar... so if you have a good stiff sway bar and shortten that drop link... its essentially the same thing...

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I'm going to have to discuss the Hooker/Beer group buy with my wife before I make any definate commitments.

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Sorry, but you are incorrect on your understanding of how anti-sway bars function.

The different holes in adjustable sway bars alters the arm length of the force twisting the sway bar.

Making broad generalizations, a longer bar "end" will soften the bar. Think a longer arm length will twist the bar less than a shorter arm would. Pulling #'s out of my *ss, a 6" arm subjected to a 1" suspension travel/bump might exert a 20 degree twist of the effective bar. A 4" arm might twist the same bar 30 degrees, resulting in more force being required to twist the bar.

The length of the connecting link between the bar end and it's attachment to the "A" arm would make minimal if any difference to the sway bar rate.

Hope this makes some sense, as even I am getting confused!
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I would be interested in group buy.
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Originally Posted by EnthuZ
Sorry, but you are incorrect on your understanding of how anti-sway bars function.

The different holes in adjustable sway bars alters the arm length of the force twisting the sway bar.

Making broad generalizations, a longer bar "end" will soften the bar. Think a longer arm length will twist the bar less than a shorter arm would. Pulling #'s out of my *ss, a 6" arm subjected to a 1" suspension travel/bump might exert a 20 degree twist of the effective bar. A 4" arm might twist the same bar 30 degrees, resulting in more force being required to twist the bar.

The length of the connecting link between the bar end and it's attachment to the "A" arm would make minimal if any difference to the sway bar rate.

Hope this makes some sense, as even I am getting confused!
Eitehr way, no matter how good the sway bar... it comes down to the links and bushings... If there is extra play in these parts, the sway bar doesnt function to its fullest...
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GB? I'd be interested...
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interested in GB
will this GB include the option of the SCCA nissan motorsports sway bars? was going to pick up 350evo's but if the price is close then my choice is clear...

http://performancenissanparts.com/ca...oducts_id=2097

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