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10-24-2006, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by dklau33
I just replaced all 4 of my endlinks on my '04 G35 sedan with the supposed oem beefier links for an '05+ model. The old endlinks were definitely shot and the balljoints moved around too freely. Probably a combo of 4 track days, numerous canyon runs and crappy cali roads. After the install I could immediately tell the car felt much more solid and the slop had gone away. But the question is how long will these new oem end links last? Would be nice to go with a solid aftermarket end link that can take abuse.
10-25-2006, 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Amiricanmade
+1, if i was to replace my endlinks with beefier aftermarket ones, how long would the beefier ones last?
10-31-2006, 08:11 AM
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I was just at TC Design last Friday to pick up some other parts and as of then they were still waiting on some of the end link parts. They're off to SEMA this week and will be at Moton next week. I'll post back as soon as they're ready.
10-31-2006, 01:08 PM
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So I figured out the issues w/ this thing. When I installed my rear camber arm and toe bolt, my driving somehow made the toe bolt *move* thus causing the rear wheels to point a few degrees inward toward the center of the car causing all the bump steer. Bad bald tires caused slippage in the rain causing the rear end to wobble back and forth in bad weather. I'm getting the toe fixed for free so wasn't a severe problem afterall.
Update on the SPL End Links: Overtime, the adjustability option didn't stay tight and it loosened itself. I went under there and could turn the **** w/ my hand which isn't good. I tightened them back up, but next time around, im going to purchase solid end links, non-adjustable with polyurethane inserts.
Update on the SPL End Links: Overtime, the adjustability option didn't stay tight and it loosened itself. I went under there and could turn the **** w/ my hand which isn't good. I tightened them back up, but next time around, im going to purchase solid end links, non-adjustable with polyurethane inserts.
10-31-2006, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by abui01
Update on the SPL End Links: Overtime, the adjustability option didn't stay tight and it loosened itself. I went under there and could turn the **** w/ my hand which isn't good. I tightened them back up, but next time around, im going to purchase solid end links, non-adjustable with polyurethane inserts.
10-31-2006, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by abui01
Update on the SPL End Links: Overtime, the adjustability option didn't stay tight and it loosened itself. I went under there and could turn the **** w/ my hand which isn't good. I tightened them back up, but next time around, im going to purchase solid end links, non-adjustable with polyurethane inserts.
When tightening the jam nut you have to hold the buckle with a wrench, and use another wrench to tighten each jam nut. You cannot tighten the jam nut with a single wrench relying on the bearing
You have to make sure the both bearings can pivot as much as possible after tightening. You do not want the bearings to be binding after tightening, the endlink should be able to twist left and right by hand. As long as the jam nuts are tight that means the endlink is fixed, being able to pivot does not mean the endlink is not holding its length setting. The endlink has to be able to pivot to take up suspension movement.
11-01-2006, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by kuah
We had no issues on the 350Z we installed them on, and have been running since Feb this year. Please make sure you tighten them correctly:
When tightening the jam nut you have to hold the buckle with a wrench, and use another wrench to tighten each jam nut. You cannot tighten the jam nut with a single wrench relying on the bearing
You have to make sure the both bearings can pivot as much as possible after tightening. You do not want the bearings to be binding after tightening, the endlink should be able to twist left and right by hand. As long as the jam nuts are tight that means the endlink is fixed, being able to pivot does not mean the endlink is not holding its length setting. The endlink has to be able to pivot to take up suspension movement.
When tightening the jam nut you have to hold the buckle with a wrench, and use another wrench to tighten each jam nut. You cannot tighten the jam nut with a single wrench relying on the bearing
You have to make sure the both bearings can pivot as much as possible after tightening. You do not want the bearings to be binding after tightening, the endlink should be able to twist left and right by hand. As long as the jam nuts are tight that means the endlink is fixed, being able to pivot does not mean the endlink is not holding its length setting. The endlink has to be able to pivot to take up suspension movement.
Perhaps you guys had better luck on your car, but knowing me and my odd history of problems that no one else seems to have, this is just normal
11-04-2006, 11:57 AM
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THK already makes high quality adjustable end links for the Z:
www.powergridinc.com
And if you replace your end links you want them to be adjustable, especially if you have coilovers! And these are NOT heim joints like the others
For those of you who don't know why you want them adjustable: you can achieve a perfect 50/50 cross weight with adjustable, where as fix links will cause a preload condition which will make it impossible to get you cross weights right!
And as far as you not knowing anyone that had a pre-load issue with their cross weights - I am one. I had perfect 50/50 cross weights w/o the sways attached, once attached it went to a 51/49 condition. As far as adjusting the ride height to conter this - it is too coarse a thread to get it perfect. Thus, once I went to a adjustable end link - my problem was solved.
And I also agree, end link should be bearings - not bushings to prevent it from binding.
www.powergridinc.com
And if you replace your end links you want them to be adjustable, especially if you have coilovers! And these are NOT heim joints like the others
For those of you who don't know why you want them adjustable: you can achieve a perfect 50/50 cross weight with adjustable, where as fix links will cause a preload condition which will make it impossible to get you cross weights right!
And as far as you not knowing anyone that had a pre-load issue with their cross weights - I am one. I had perfect 50/50 cross weights w/o the sways attached, once attached it went to a 51/49 condition. As far as adjusting the ride height to conter this - it is too coarse a thread to get it perfect. Thus, once I went to a adjustable end link - my problem was solved.
And I also agree, end link should be bearings - not bushings to prevent it from binding.
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11-05-2006, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 21112
So you have these?
Got any reveiws for us?
Got any reveiws for us?
I will be using them this coming weekend at Sebring and let you know how it goes.
11-06-2006, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by MoodDude
I had perfect 50/50 cross weights w/o the sways attached, once attached it went to a 51/49 condition.
11-06-2006, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
no problem - we actually have 2 Z's in house as well as several local cars we'll be doing testing on once the prototypes are done
11-06-2006, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by abui01
Here are the photos of some before and afters.
1. Buff SPL End Link on left, wimpy OEM on right:
2. Stock OEM End Link:
3. SPL End Link Installed:
Thoughts after driving:
Regular street driving - everything feels firmer again, no more wobble, solid! Lets hope these dont wimp out on me after I install beefier solid sway bars.
Highway cornering @ 80mph+ and hitting bumps while turning - STILL solid! Very well engineered product! I am satisfied... for now!
Next Test: AutoX Course + Corner Balancing using the adjustability function, I will post results when I get a chance to really test these to its limits... hopefully the ball joint doesn't fly off on me
1. Buff SPL End Link on left, wimpy OEM on right:
2. Stock OEM End Link:
3. SPL End Link Installed:
Thoughts after driving:
Regular street driving - everything feels firmer again, no more wobble, solid! Lets hope these dont wimp out on me after I install beefier solid sway bars.
Highway cornering @ 80mph+ and hitting bumps while turning - STILL solid! Very well engineered product! I am satisfied... for now!
Next Test: AutoX Course + Corner Balancing using the adjustability function, I will post results when I get a chance to really test these to its limits... hopefully the ball joint doesn't fly off on me
EDIT: Sorry, saw you posted your answer a little more down. So, did you just "eyeball" the length? Also, have the loosened up again? What was your mileage when the links started to make sounds? Thanks.
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11-07-2006, 06:52 AM
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like I said in previous posts, when we have an update to post, we will - designing these the way we want them and as we've done on previous units takes some time as does testing but once completed, we'll be sure to post