So I love my suspesion, what next?
02-12-2007, 06:20 PM
#1
So I love my suspesion, what next?
I got Tein S Tech springs, Progress sways and GT Spec tie braces. I love the way it handles, but it could be s little stiffer. Any other springs out there with a stiffer spring rate? I don't really want to go coils cause of the price at the moment. Ideas?
Oh and I haven't got the GT Spec middle brace yet cause I got a roll bar, figured that will stiffen up the cassy.
Oh and I haven't got the GT Spec middle brace yet cause I got a roll bar, figured that will stiffen up the cassy.
Last edited by MyV6IsFast3r; 02-12-2007 at 06:24 PM.
02-12-2007, 07:25 PM
#7
D-specs and TomMotor sport coilovers. Adjustable dampning and 500/500 spring rates (though the most recent Ebay ad's say the rate is 450/350). I wouldn't argue that the D-spec shock is better valved then a Basic coilover dampner is. But the Basic does have one advantage, shorter dampner body/piston rod lengths.
I totally understand the request for rates stiffer then the S-techs. Problem is when we're talking lowering springs, the aftermarket kind of follow's the ability of the oem shocks. That means we see certain bounderies in spring stiffness and they tend to be all to willing to trade at the limit performance and car feel with progressive design's.
I totally understand the request for rates stiffer then the S-techs. Problem is when we're talking lowering springs, the aftermarket kind of follow's the ability of the oem shocks. That means we see certain bounderies in spring stiffness and they tend to be all to willing to trade at the limit performance and car feel with progressive design's.
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02-12-2007, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Dubai
whats the best place/price to buy Tokico D-spec shocks?
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02-18-2007, 08:35 AM
#9
Originally Posted by Gsedan35
D-specs and TomMotor sport coilovers. Adjustable dampning and 500/500 spring rates (though the most recent Ebay ad's say the rate is 450/350). I wouldn't argue that the D-spec shock is better valved then a Basic coilover dampner is. But the Basic does have one advantage, shorter dampner body/piston rod lengths.
I totally understand the request for rates stiffer then the S-techs. Problem is when we're talking lowering springs, the aftermarket kind of follow's the ability of the oem shocks. That means we see certain bounderies in spring stiffness and they tend to be all to willing to trade at the limit performance and car feel with progressive design's.
I totally understand the request for rates stiffer then the S-techs. Problem is when we're talking lowering springs, the aftermarket kind of follow's the ability of the oem shocks. That means we see certain bounderies in spring stiffness and they tend to be all to willing to trade at the limit performance and car feel with progressive design's.
That being said, are shock a good bet? What will I gain from this? Will it be too rough or keep a somewhat stock ride? Explain the geometry behind shocks and the dampening?
Also is there any other spring (not coilover) that has higher rates than the S-Techs?
Last edited by MyV6IsFast3r; 02-18-2007 at 08:39 AM.
02-18-2007, 08:25 PM
#10
Originally Posted by MyV6IsFast3r
I see where your comming from. Im thinking about coilovers, but it seems ever car I have ridden in with them has been so rough I can't stand it. I need a nice medium, that's why im going with stiffer springs and stock shocks to get a good middle between some comfort yet agressive.
That being said, are shock a good bet? What will I gain from this? Will it be too rough or keep a somewhat stock ride? Explain the geometry behind shocks and the dampening?
Also is there any other spring (not coilover) that has higher rates than the S-Techs?
That being said, are shock a good bet? What will I gain from this? Will it be too rough or keep a somewhat stock ride? Explain the geometry behind shocks and the dampening?
Also is there any other spring (not coilover) that has higher rates than the S-Techs?
Your going to run into a dead end trying to out do the S-tech's in the spring aftermarket. Granted the S-tech uses a progressive spring in the front, it won't stack up a bunch of coils to bind and effect rate change. Looking at the S-tech front spring mounted on a shock, perhaps one coil will bind, so they don't have a wide spread between initial and final rate. So it's kind of a tuff sell to say that the Tokico D-specs all linear spring at 375/375 is a better choice vs the S-tech's 386/402 rates. Their are a few springs on the market that have higher "peak" rates, but they are progressive design's with wide rate spreads that trade peak handling and car feel for ride quality though I'm sure it's also to stay within the oem shocks abilities.
Tein S-tech 350z (fronts are progressive, rears are linear) .7”/.6”
Spring rates in lbs 386/402 (final rates only, softer initial front progressive rate unknown)
Eibach 350Z sportline progressive springs 1.2"/1.2"
F:inital/final 239/400 R:initial/final 257/435
Kg/mm DRacing progressive springs 1.2”/1.2”
Spring rates in LBS F:initial/final 252/454 R:initial/final 252/482 rear
Espelir 350Z progressive springs .4"/.4"
386/515 (same coil bind count as sportline, spread is likely simular)
Going with D-specs will net you better overall car feel since the shocks have much better valving then oem shocks do, also meaning they will deal with stiffer springs better as well. Since they are shocks that adjust for both compression damping and rebound, you can set them to be the same stiffness as your oem shocks or stiffer, your choice. Set stiffer, you may find you have the added stiffness your after. Though you may also find it's not the kind of stiffness increase your really after.
02-18-2007, 09:10 PM
#12
Well I don't want to write of Koni's. They are better valved vs oem as well. It's just that in this case how the D-spec adjust's vs the Koni's rebound only control may make enough differance in car feel to satisfy his needs without changing springs. Some may be better served by the Koni's rebound only control, I don't see that as the case here.
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