Tein Flex or Stance
02-27-2007, 01:12 PM
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Tein Flex or Stance
I can't seem to decide which one I want to go with, I want a nice drop which won't be an issue but nice ride quality. I hear good things about both, and some bad here and there. Give me your feedback so I can have more info on making my next purchase.
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Jonathan
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02-27-2007, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Nihilation
Yea you're better off not going with coilovers if you want anything "comfortable".
I wouldn't quite say that. There are a few that are regarded as comfortable and yet still has some sporting nature such as the Tein CS or the Billstein PSS9.
02-27-2007, 03:36 PM
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Here is some input on ride quality and "drop". If you want to lower your car, you must increase the stiffness of your springs. If you don't you will bottom out the car and that will cause ill performance and premature breakage of something.
Therefore, if you want to drop the car you must go with a stiffer spring, thus sacraficing ride quality!
I think both systems come with the same front springs rates, yet the rears since they are mounted at different points are not the same. Yet, do to mechanical advantage, they will have the same wheel rate. I still have not been convinced that the stance true rear coilover is structurally sound, since the car is not designed around loads at the points the stance uses.
Therefore, if you want to drop the car you must go with a stiffer spring, thus sacraficing ride quality!
I think both systems come with the same front springs rates, yet the rears since they are mounted at different points are not the same. Yet, do to mechanical advantage, they will have the same wheel rate. I still have not been convinced that the stance true rear coilover is structurally sound, since the car is not designed around loads at the points the stance uses.
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02-27-2007, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dklau33
I wouldn't quite say that. There are a few that are regarded as comfortable and yet still has some sporting nature such as the Tein CS or the Billstein PSS9.
From the FAQ-
Tein CS (Monotube construction, adjustable dampeners )
Side Note: A comfort ride system compare to HKS LS
392/392 F+25% R15%
Transfers +10% roll stiffness to front
Special Note: I had a conversation with Tein about this coilover. I called because I had a hunch that the comfort tuning designed into the system would prevent me from getting the dampening stiffness I wanted. When I told him I wanted a system that would be valved stiffer then oem 350Z shocks, he did not believe they were setup to do that. Revalving them would be $300 or so PER! dampener.
Side Note: A comfort ride system compare to HKS LS
392/392 F+25% R15%
Transfers +10% roll stiffness to front
Special Note: I had a conversation with Tein about this coilover. I called because I had a hunch that the comfort tuning designed into the system would prevent me from getting the dampening stiffness I wanted. When I told him I wanted a system that would be valved stiffer then oem 350Z shocks, he did not believe they were setup to do that. Revalving them would be $300 or so PER! dampener.
Bilstein PSS9 coilover (Monotube construction, adjustable dampeners)
Special Note: Mild spring rates, but Bilstein says the dampeners are performance valved
370/240-420 (rear progressive) F +18% R +23% (at peak rear spring rate)
Transfers +5% roll stiffness to rear
Piston Size: 46mm
Damper adjustability: 9-way adjustable
Special Note: Very easy to ditch the rear progressive springs that come with the Bilsteins (I would) Eibach sells linear 5" O.D. springs that you can swap in, $100 for the pair.
Special Note: Mild spring rates, but Bilstein says the dampeners are performance valved
370/240-420 (rear progressive) F +18% R +23% (at peak rear spring rate)
Transfers +5% roll stiffness to rear
Piston Size: 46mm
Damper adjustability: 9-way adjustable
Special Note: Very easy to ditch the rear progressive springs that come with the Bilsteins (I would) Eibach sells linear 5" O.D. springs that you can swap in, $100 for the pair.
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02-27-2007, 11:28 PM
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I (hands down) prefer the Stance coilovers over the Teins. As far as structurally sound, I am pretty sure they are, we beat the hell out of these Z's and G's with the Stances rear mounting location, and no problems whatsoever, (and most people who know me will attest to how hard I am on things) 
BTW, the Stances have a pretty good quality ride for a coilover, and we just won the Redline Time Attack on them.
BTW, the Stances have a pretty good quality ride for a coilover, and we just won the Redline Time Attack on them.
02-28-2007, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MoodDude
Here is some input on ride quality and "drop". If you want to lower your car, you must increase the stiffness of your springs. If you don't you will bottom out the car and that will cause ill performance and premature breakage of something.
Therefore, if you want to drop the car you must go with a stiffer spring, thus sacraficing ride quality!
I think both systems come with the same front springs rates, yet the rears since they are mounted at different points are not the same. Yet, do to mechanical advantage, they will have the same wheel rate. I still have not been convinced that the stance true rear coilover is structurally sound, since the car is not designed around loads at the points the stance uses.
Therefore, if you want to drop the car you must go with a stiffer spring, thus sacraficing ride quality!
I think both systems come with the same front springs rates, yet the rears since they are mounted at different points are not the same. Yet, do to mechanical advantage, they will have the same wheel rate. I still have not been convinced that the stance true rear coilover is structurally sound, since the car is not designed around loads at the points the stance uses.
Tein Flex 672/672
Stance 672/280
Tein 242llbs rear wheel rate
Stance 165lbs rear wheel rate
(A 165lbs wheel rate equal's a 459lbs spring rate if run in the oem location)
02-28-2007, 09:11 AM
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i've had the stance set up for about 5k miles and they've held up quite well with the shoddy streets around my area. i take them off every now and then and they still look and perform like the day i bought them.
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