HREs and AP Racing brakes
Originally posted by XBS
so 10's fit in the back with no rubbing, i thought 9.5 was the biggest the back could fit with out modifcation, if anyone knows what the rears can handle with out modification please post
so 10's fit in the back with no rubbing, i thought 9.5 was the biggest the back could fit with out modifcation, if anyone knows what the rears can handle with out modification please post
joe
Originally posted by seanrulz
??? 9.5? 10? Are you talking about the rotor size of Non-Track Non-Brembo Brake setup? Cuz I was talking about the Track Brembo setup which is 12.7 inch fron and 12.7 rear (rear might be a little bit smaller, but not much and I'm not sure)
So is the Brake Pro rotors that Stillen offers for Track Brembo setup are 12.7 inches? which is exactly same as the stock size? what about 13'? would they fit? And from many indications I assume they are single-piece, not 2-piece right? Just wanted to make sure cuz I couldn't find those informations in Stillen Website.
??? 9.5? 10? Are you talking about the rotor size of Non-Track Non-Brembo Brake setup? Cuz I was talking about the Track Brembo setup which is 12.7 inch fron and 12.7 rear (rear might be a little bit smaller, but not much and I'm not sure)
So is the Brake Pro rotors that Stillen offers for Track Brembo setup are 12.7 inches? which is exactly same as the stock size? what about 13'? would they fit? And from many indications I assume they are single-piece, not 2-piece right? Just wanted to make sure cuz I couldn't find those informations in Stillen Website.
joe
Yeah...I was told so..... sigh* I thought buying a Track model with Factory Brembo and replacing rotor would do enough to the brake system I wanted but it ain't like that afterall
Buy the way, your car look just sick man....Jeez! HRE with DB is simply....speechless...
Now I understand why my friend owning DB is saving his *** up to get HRE's... but they are too expensive!!!
Anyway, I love your car so bad.
Buy the way, your car look just sick man....Jeez! HRE with DB is simply....speechless...
Now I understand why my friend owning DB is saving his *** up to get HRE's... but they are too expensive!!!
Nice car! Love the wheels and brakes!!
But, i have to agree with raceboy here. I race my 350Z track as well. At the last event i was at, i boiled the fluid the first day. After a quick change in the hotel parking lot i was back on the second day. I had absolutely NO problems with my brakes. This was at Mid-Ohio and pulling down from 130 on the back straight to make a 50mph right hander. Trust me, i drive my car hard. So hard in fact that the red lettering on the caliper is now black and my tires are gone (they only had 3500 miles on them).
Now, i also have to say that i am a big fan of AP Racing and Stoptech. But in all fairness, that article of the stoptech brakes is not 100% accurate. They not only had 2 different cars they swapped the brakes on, but they also changed tires/rims/suspension on the stoptech equiped car. That is really not a fare test as brake performance will be vastly different with those changes. I am also pretty sure they used different pad compounds than the brembo's were using....
A more accurate test would be to first bleed the brakes on the track model. Put the new rims and tires on that car. Test it. Then, swap the brakes, bleed only to get the air out (not changing the fluid) and make sure the same pad compound is used. I think that article was good on the type's of tests stoptech does, but it also wasn't completely accurate either.
Also, the brembo's from the factory are not perfect. But, with a pad change, fluid change, and some stainless lines they work perfectly on the car.
But, i don't want to hijack this thread... Again, beautiful car!! Love the wheels!
But, i have to agree with raceboy here. I race my 350Z track as well. At the last event i was at, i boiled the fluid the first day. After a quick change in the hotel parking lot i was back on the second day. I had absolutely NO problems with my brakes. This was at Mid-Ohio and pulling down from 130 on the back straight to make a 50mph right hander. Trust me, i drive my car hard. So hard in fact that the red lettering on the caliper is now black and my tires are gone (they only had 3500 miles on them).
Now, i also have to say that i am a big fan of AP Racing and Stoptech. But in all fairness, that article of the stoptech brakes is not 100% accurate. They not only had 2 different cars they swapped the brakes on, but they also changed tires/rims/suspension on the stoptech equiped car. That is really not a fare test as brake performance will be vastly different with those changes. I am also pretty sure they used different pad compounds than the brembo's were using....
A more accurate test would be to first bleed the brakes on the track model. Put the new rims and tires on that car. Test it. Then, swap the brakes, bleed only to get the air out (not changing the fluid) and make sure the same pad compound is used. I think that article was good on the type's of tests stoptech does, but it also wasn't completely accurate either.
Also, the brembo's from the factory are not perfect. But, with a pad change, fluid change, and some stainless lines they work perfectly on the car.
But, i don't want to hijack this thread... Again, beautiful car!! Love the wheels!
I do agree that the Brembo OEM brakes are OK with a pad, fluid and line change.
But the key for me is going into corners deeper, out braking the competition and better stopping distance.
I have been racing in SCCA and other series since 1979. We currenly run a GT-2 Z. In the National Series. Ther eis never "enough" brakes!
There is a difference between functional vs. high end. I have driven modified OEM Brembo setups and not overly impressed. For the track, I prefer the A/P or the Stop Tech. Heat dissapation, out gasing etc is a whole thread in itself.
We can agree to disagree, that is fine.
Regards
But the key for me is going into corners deeper, out braking the competition and better stopping distance.
I have been racing in SCCA and other series since 1979. We currenly run a GT-2 Z. In the National Series. Ther eis never "enough" brakes!
There is a difference between functional vs. high end. I have driven modified OEM Brembo setups and not overly impressed. For the track, I prefer the A/P or the Stop Tech. Heat dissapation, out gasing etc is a whole thread in itself.
We can agree to disagree, that is fine.
Regards
Originally posted by z'pondering
simply some information to help add facts to the debate of brake performance. It seems to depend on whether you measure improvement in inches, feet, or miles.
http://www.zeckhausen.com/Testing_Brakes.htm
simply some information to help add facts to the debate of brake performance. It seems to depend on whether you measure improvement in inches, feet, or miles.
http://www.zeckhausen.com/Testing_Brakes.htm
*Test conducted on a 3rd car with modified suspension and Toyo Proxes tires. All other tests were conducted with stock suspension and factory Bridgestone RE40 tires.
Last edited by supra crazy; Apr 24, 2003 at 05:36 PM.
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