I have to say, I had these installed, performed the "bedding" etc.. and although Im still not sure if they are even up to par w/the stock (non-Brembro) brakes in terms of performance, for the price alone AND absolute "minimal" brake-dust they are simply amazing.. The only thing that was hard to get used to is the "softness" felt in the pedal. But overall, I am definitely happy with the investment and actually bought the non-ceramic ones, too! +1..

 

The number 1 benefit of the HPS pads are low dust. They have terrible initial bite but brake decently after warmed up. I am trying the Nismo pads next.

 

Summer is a poor time to evaluate the cold initial stopping dynamics of new pads, just as new shocks are softest in heat.

I know I've slid thru a few stop signs with both feet on the pedal in cool weather when evaluating aftermarket pads over the years.

 

I also recently installed these same pads. Stopping power is fine, but I also found the initial bite to be not so good. Will be going to the different pad next time...

 

Thanks for the info, I was thinking about going with these after my HP+ wear out. The HP+ work very well, but the dust is a bit much for daily driving use. I think I'll try the Carbotech street pads next. I've heard great things about the race pads.

 

There are dozens of pads that kinda fit the calipers, give or take a shim or two or a fractional millimeter here and there.

Some of them even come close to oem street performance in a few specific temperature ranges.

Depending on the word of sellers or other users is iffy at best because of differences of PERSONAL requirements.

 

Im happy with my HPS pads as well. Im glad to see that the initial stopping is just what happens. I was going to bleed my brakes, and get new lines to try and fix this a little. They do stop really well though compared to the stock pads. It was a very worthwhile investment.

 

I too have a hawk HPS brake pads all around, but I have slotted & drilled rotors, using dot 4 brake fluid, and stainless steel brake lines and I have no stopping issues, I have only had em for approx 3 weeks so still geting used to the braking charcteristics, they really do seem to be low dust by the look of my wheels. PS I got em on ebay fronts for $36.00 shipped and the rears for $44.00 shipped, guess you have to be patient and look for deals during the middle of the week

 

Initial bite is the important part in a panic stop!

At 60 mph you are traveling 88 feet per second.............what happens in the first 1/10 of a second means stops lengthen by 8.8 feet.

The dust is how infiniti went from 129 feet to 109 feet...........ramping things up fast in the first 2/10.

Without scientific measurements brake feel is not concise..........a human cannot judge 2/10 in 2.5 seconds without instrumentalities.

 

I agree. What pads do you recommend then and might have minimal brake dust, so long as it's not sacrificing performance-- if even possible? What you mention is probably one of the most important things I need in choosing brakes.. as driving NJ roads can be unpredictable w/all the "idiot" drivers out here..

I guess I still compare my old 2001 Accord to the Z and how braking between the two are like night and day, w/ or w/o HPS..

But on a side note, I am starting to wonder if the dealership f*d up my ABS installing the HPS pads? I feel it's just not grabbing a hold of the wheels and "locking" when I brake hard, as I felt it did before?? Maybe it's just me, but I'll have to test this again..

 

P-Mu b-force

 

For street driving where stops are from 80 mph or less and not 6 panics back to back without a cooling interval..............nothing beats the oem pads.

Especially performance pads which often need to heat up beyond 200F to function.

A typical 60 mph single PANIC stop will never heat oem pads/rotors up more than 150F by the end of the stop. So on a 70F day the pads rotors are stablized ~~100F at start of stop so 175F in middle and 250F near end.

Obviously there will be some minor variation front vs rear and side to side --- say 10-15% ~~15-25F

 

interestingly, i felt that initial bite was gone, but then again, i thought that the stock z pads had too much initial bite. i'm very pleased with hps performance. i auto x these puppies also. and braking is great.
i don't know if it was during break in period wen i thought it was very, LOOSE. but love it now.