I know TC Klines T2 Z is running Koni Adjustable shocks.

 

Yes they are both good, I've just had personel experience head to head. In any event they should be better than stock struts. I'd just rather have the Koni's with stiffer coilovers or springs however.

 

I have to say, I would rather have the Koni's, since I have the 17" tires which from all accounts seem to suffer most from the bouncing. Gordon at Koni confirmed their test mule had the 17S on it even though they will be the same for 18s as well and NO bounce. I have never replaced the stock springs on a car because I am not interested in changing my ride height.

However, I have replaced the OE shocks on my previous 3 cars w/Tokikos and they have worked well, but I think they would work better w/Tokiko's springs as well. Koni developed their shocks to be compatible with the stock springs and Gordon told me directly. That's why I'm disappointed with such a long delay on their availability because I want them now.

I thought maybe if H&R had an OE Sport spring, w/ a minimal drop, I might try them if they have a set for the Z that is progressive. No way will I buy their springs they have for the Z with a 1.5" drop, I'm already scraping at the stock height. I'm not buying the Eibachs for the same reason.

I'll just have to wait and endure the bounce for a lot longer than I expected. Bummer

 

Good to hear Koni is engineering the Sport shocks to work with the stock springs. Come on Koni build the shocks already!

 

 

Hah! Good one w/pic.

 

Just wanted to point out that when talking coilovers for our Z we are only talking about the front suspension. I bought the JIC FLT-A-2s coilover suspension and the rears are a seperate shock and seperate spring, meaning you could buy Koni shocks and Eibach springs for the back for example and have the same thing you would get with a coilover system.

The only thing you would lose is the shock being matched to the spring. But if you have some multi way adjustable shocks you could probably tune them to match the springs anyway.

Jeff

 

The only thing you would lose is the shock being matched to the spring. But if you have some multi way adjustable shocks you could probably tune them to match the springs anyway.

Jeff [/B][/QUOTE]

Gordon told me the Konis are always set on full soft when sold to provide the best ride and a lot of adjustability, if you want firmer control tracking the car. This why I have waited for them, this is a feature of Konis I've always liked. For one reason or another, I've never owned a set, but w/the Z's oversprung/undershocked characteristics, the Konis are the perfect solution for me. They will provide a smooth, supple ride with absolute control.

Nothing soft about them, when Konis are on full soft, they are still much firmer than 95% of the stock/aftermarket shocks on the market, just the correct firmness to cure the bounce. Adjust them to full hard and you can have near Formula 1 stiffness, I have read and been told by those who should know. I really hate waiting.

 

[/B][/QUOTE] Gordon told me the Konis are always set on full soft when sold to provide the best ride and a lot of adjustability, if you want firmer control tracking the car. This why I have waited for them, this is a feature of Konis I've always liked. For one reason or another, I've never owned a set, but w/the Z's oversprung/undershocked characteristics, the Konis are the perfect solution for me. They will provide a smooth, supple ride with absolute control.

Nothing soft about them, when Konis are on full soft, they are still much firmer than 95% of the stock/aftermarket shocks on the market, just the correct firmness to cure the bounce. Adjust them to full hard and you can have near Formula 1 stiffness, I have read and been told by those who should know. I really hate waiting. [/B][/QUOTE]

Boomer,

I think that is a real good way to go. You will definetelly like the results over stock. Be sure to post some pics of the new Koni shocks when you get them. Do you know if the ride adjustment is on the top of the shock or on the side somewhere?

Jeff

 

Gordon told me the Konis are always set on full soft when sold to provide the best ride and a lot of adjustability, if you want firmer control tracking the car. This why I have waited for them, this is a feature of Konis I've always liked. For one reason or another, I've never owned a set, but w/the Z's oversprung/undershocked characteristics, the Konis are the perfect solution for me. They will provide a smooth, supple ride with absolute control.

Nothing soft about them, when Konis are on full soft, they are still much firmer than 95% of the stock/aftermarket shocks on the market, just the correct firmness to cure the bounce. Adjust them to full hard and you can have near Formula 1 stiffness, I have read and been told by those who should know. I really hate waiting. [/B][/QUOTE]

Boomer,

I think that is a real good way to go. You will definetelly like the results over stock. Be sure to post some pics of the new Koni shocks when you get them. Do you know if the ride adjustment is on the top of the shock or on the side somewhere?

Jeff [/B][/QUOTE]

Jeff, I may be wrong, but I think you need to put the car on a lift, unbolt the bottom of the shock and turn the outside cylinder by hand. A little more complicated, but probably you could do it on Jack stands or ramps; the lift would be easier, but either way shouldn't take long at all. Not being a DYIer, I would choose a shop's lift and follow Koni's recommendations for adjustment. If you don't track the car, the only reason for adjustment is for wear and you have to put a lot of hard miles on a Koni to need adjustment, you might not own the car that long and they have a lifetime guarantee.

 

You shouldn't have to lift the car to adjust the shocks. I've seen Carter and Jim Thompson adjust their car in the grid waiting for a run, just by reaching around the tires.

Of course, they have a custom set, but I don't see Koni putting the adjustment out of reach.

 

That would be sweet if they could be adjusted by just reaching in behind the tire. But you are right boomer once they were set the way I liked I probably never adjust them. I don't track my car but it would be fun to try it.

Jeff

 

If I were tracking the car every 2 weeks or more, the adjustability method would be a big factor. Its possible that they are adjustable by just rotating the shock body, maybe the lower part of the shock only. I really don't know, maybe someone reading this does and will enlighten us poor sinners.

 

From what I have read in the KONI site the fronts should be adjustable from above. The rears might have to be adjusted by turning the cylinder as Boomer said. I think there is a good bit of demand for these with the number of Z's sold and the bounce........Plus should help those AutoX their cars too. Gordon we only probably need a dozen sets to take care of those of us in the thread.