Ok, I never had any suspension work done. Just minor things such as springs and anti roll bars, but I got a Z now so needs more better lol. These are low in price and that is what makes me worry, I will use the car on the street mainly I just want a drop and it needs to be stiff enough to keep it from rubbing on the set of 20' Maya STM I have planed for it. Here is a link..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=200169382234

For you suspension experts what you guys think of these will they do the job or they just crap.

 

there pretty good but they are what they say they are basic. not bad though

 

So what is basic about them compared to lets say other coil overs that cost 1500+. I don't mean to sound like a ***, but I read up here on the forums and articles and not much of it compares or explains what I would gain from street use.

 

I had a set, and i absolutely hated them.

 

thats not a good enough reason, WHY

 

Don't lie, the street is ALL that your gonna be using it for with those wheels. Tein basics would be fine but for your set up I wouldnt even waste that much get some Tanabe or Tein springs and call it good.

 

Please don't get those wheels. Please.

I've heard a lot of mixed feelings regarding the Tein Basics (and Tein in general). Since you want to get those wheels your car will most likely only be seeing street duty, just get a set of springs. Tanabe GF210's are stiff and give a nice (but not too low) drop. I got them on my Evo and love them.

 

Overall, review's on Basics have been postive. Though over time if you've read those review's carefully you'd figure out that for some, the dampning performance leaves a little to be desired (not counting a couple recent owner comments that are really negitive).

One thing they should do, is offer something better then just installing 1.2" drop springs that aren't much stiffer then oem. At least the Basics have dampners that are shorter then the oem shocks, should have more travel then just a springs and shocks setup. Don't get me wrong however, I ruled them out for me a long time ago.

Here is a thread with some very positive owner comments on the Basics.

https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....ighlight=basic

 

Here are some points. And I don't represent a brand, or vendor. And I'm not working to pay off a dept to anyone because I got something for free or at a steep discount.

Non adjustable dampning

Pro: Helps keep your purchase price down. You can't adjust them to a worse setting.

Con: What if you don't like how they are preset? The maybe factor, maybe if you "could" adjust them softer or harder they would behave more to your liking.

Comment: $1500 coilovers will most certainly give you adjustable dampning.

Adjusts height by spring preload level

Pro: Helps keep your purchase price down. Allow's you the ability to raise or lower the vehicle height, also allow's corner weighting (not everyone agree's).

Con: Not the ideal way to raise or lower the car. Ideal spring preload is the minimum amount to keep the spring seated when the suspension is unladen. Having to raise spring preload to gain height introduces the chance of secondary issues related to ride quality and vehicle control on less then smooth pavement.

Comment: $1500 coilovers may have full height adjustablity. This means the ability to adjust vehicle height without inducing additional spring preload, preload is kept at the ideal minimum level 100% of the time. Should allow for greater over all height adjustment range vs preload only adjustablity.

Valving

Comment: Here a huge grey area, a area where all to many don't know right from wrong. Your simply not going to get really good valving on a limited budget, it cost's money for the R&D work and parts makeup to make things work well. Even $1500 doesn not guarantee your buying something that would make a expert smile when viewing a shock dyno plot, making this the most difficult target to hit when making a purchase decision.

I'm sure I left something out, just wanted to hit on the things that came to mind quickly.

 

I have had my tein basics for about a year now. Very satisfied with them. I"m not the type of guy who will take my car to the track, so I won't be getting out of the car to adjust anything. The basics are setup just right to my opinion. Firm, not harsh. Much better than the stock bounce. Cornering is improved and stiffer. Shorter travel, so it will be felt at high speed, such as on the freeway when road has a dip. I feel it was money well spent.

 

Oem shocks differ over the years for the Z, some had much worse bounce issues then others.

What year is your car?

03-04?

04.5-07?

 

03

 

Oh yeah, 03/04 are the worst for bounce, the unrevised setup. I had a 03 oem Z shock/spring setup installed as my first setup, come a long way since then thats for sure. They bounced and porposed no different then they did on the Z, I know how they are all too well.

 

Because everyone will come on here and say how they are a great low price solution blah blah blah... The valving in this model IMO is NOT up to par, and they have a miserable ride. They don;t do anything you want a coilover to do beyond ride height (just get springs for this). When I put my stock suspension back on my car to sell it, I immediately thought the car felt better everywhere. That's just my review of them, and not meant to slam on anyones purchases.

 

my Tanabe gf210s are for sale. Don't get these....I had them and the rid quality was shift

 

ur suppose to say tanabe gf210's kick ***!

 

Thanks guys,

Well I was going to use the maya wheels on the streets and use the stockers for autox. There is this BMW club that I am in and I was gona put on some compound R tires on them and call it a day. I just never had any need to changes my wheels with my M cars or the ZHP 330ci. I am just going over the market place link on this site they also had these another cheap set, but these were adjustable.

If these are trash like the TEIN basic can you guys recommend me anything, I would stay away from springs its point less for me.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=180175288462

 

Get some of the higher end Teins or maybe some Bilsteins (sp?)

 

Personally, I think Teins are a pile of poo. But for a guy who simply wants to lower his ride and drive around town without much track time or anything like that, then these are the perfect setup for you! However for 800'ish, I'd get the hotchkis spring/sway combo mated to bilstein shocks.