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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 04:51 PM
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So what are you sway bar settings and thoughts. I'm going to be playing with the settings tomorrow and was just curious to hear what people are running

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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 06:43 PM
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So is hole one stiffest or hole four? You could go either way.
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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So is hole one stiffest or hole four? You could go either way.
kinda what i was wondering too?
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 08:11 PM
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Front
Hole 1 = 1525 lbs/in (22% Stiffer than stock)
Hole 2 = 1845 lbs/in (48% Stiffer than stock)
Hole 3 = 2270 lbs/in (82% Stiffer than stock)
Hole 4 = 2855 lbs/in (129% Stiffer than stock)

Rear
Hole 1 = 520 lbs/in (80% Stiffer than stock)
Hole 2 = 655 lbs/in (125% Stiffer than stock)
Hole 3 = 840 lbs/in (185% Stiffer than stock)
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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cobb or hotchkis sways? depends on how it was handling before I guess....if it was oversteering, do hole 2 out back hole 4 up front...if it was understeering the stiffest settings front and rear should have you neutral...if it was neutral and you dont want oversteer...hole 3 up front hole 1 out back. This is all stupid guessing from someone who doesnt know what theyre talking about btw
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 09:59 PM
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Crap, I voted backwards...
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by istan
Front
Hole 1 = 1525 lbs/in (22% Stiffer than stock)
Hole 2 = 1845 lbs/in (48% Stiffer than stock)
Hole 3 = 2270 lbs/in (82% Stiffer than stock)
Hole 4 = 2855 lbs/in (129% Stiffer than stock)

Rear
Hole 1 = 520 lbs/in (80% Stiffer than stock)
Hole 2 = 655 lbs/in (125% Stiffer than stock)
Hole 3 = 840 lbs/in (185% Stiffer than stock)
I'm running a 4/2 setting.
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 01:03 AM
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2 front 1 rear setting , you need you car to roll a little to get proper contact patch, unless you have you camber and everything else set for it. Also to include R comp tires for the stiffer setting, unless you actually want a worse handling car.
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 01:09 AM
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i just got mine installed today.. hole 2 up front and back... but i don't like it.. still has lots of body roll up front (which i guess makes sense since according to hotchkis thats only 15% stiffer than stock) and my rear breaks lose way to easily now.. im thinking of changing to hole 4 up front and hole 1 in the rear (stiffest up front, softest out back) but am looking for some more knowledge on the subject... im not drifting, i want to eliminate body roll up front and maintain the most traction possible in the rear but before i change my settings i thought i would ask... yes i've searched but can't seem to find a definitive answer... thanks in advance..

oh, in case it matters its an 06 g coupe with 350z espelir springs and stock wheels and tires...
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 01:24 AM
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All the way stiff on both the front and the rear, Stan. But...on second thought, given the slippery Vegas roads out there, maybe whole three in the front and two in the rear (only of you develope a sliding problem with the full stiff F & R settings)
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by istan
Front
Hole 1 = 1525 lbs/in (22% Stiffer than stock)
Hole 2 = 1845 lbs/in (48% Stiffer than stock)
Hole 3 = 2270 lbs/in (82% Stiffer than stock)
Hole 4 = 2855 lbs/in (129% Stiffer than stock)

Rear
Hole 1 = 520 lbs/in (80% Stiffer than stock)
Hole 2 = 655 lbs/in (125% Stiffer than stock)
Hole 3 = 840 lbs/in (185% Stiffer than stock)
There is an entire thread about my settings, because the front is missmatched .

The rear is at the softest setting, but the front has the driver's side at hole 3 and the passenger sid at hole 2.

I autocross my Z a lot and this odd settup works best for me. Once my stock struts need replacing, I will probably go too an even setting on the front and use the Koni's to adjust the front a little stiffer. In the mean time, this is great with the rest of my setup.

original thread;

https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-suspension/312887-sway-bar-settings-between-the-settings.html

debate thread;

https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-suspension/315056-hotchkis-sways-about-actual-adjustable-setup.html
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 08:19 AM
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I have mine set at full stiffness front and have the rear staggered at one slot full stiff and the other at medium. I love this setup the best. Full stiffness in rear was almost OK under normal conditions. But when I pushed it, the oversteer was easily there. But this setup like all others best suits myself.
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 10:23 AM
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An oversteering car (a loose car), is a fast car. If you can realy harness a cars loose / oversteering characteristics than you will be much quicker on a track or a coned-off autocross course than a neutral or tight (understeering) car. All street car are generally designed with understeer in the suspension from the factory. This seems to be safer and more comfortable for most normal drivers. This car, like most cars, needs some work on getting the car more freed-up so it will rotate better and be faster. Just not everyone is comfortable driving this type of car.


Unfortunately, no company actually make a stiff enough sway bar aplication for these cars as of now. From what I have experienced, the stiffer you can get these sway bars set on these cars, the better (on 90% of the wheel & tire combos and alignment settings we use)

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I think my setup has my back end plenty "free". Here is what it did to a driver that was not used to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK_6Ei5j9YY
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Originally Posted by WA2GOOD
An oversteering car (a loose car), is a fast car. If you can realy harness a cars loose / oversteering characteristics than you will be much quicker on a track or a coned-off autocross course than a neutral or tight (understeering) car. All street car are generally designed with understeer in the suspension from the factory. This seems to be safer and more comfortable for most normal drivers. This car, like most cars, needs some work on getting the car more freed-up so it will rotate better and be faster. Just not everyone is comfortable driving this type of car.


Unfortunately, no company actually make a stiff enough sway bar aplication for these cars as of now. From what I have experienced, the stiffer you can get these sway bars set on these cars, the better (on 90% of the wheel & tire combos and alignment settings we use)
Your completely right. And all the searching I've done, everyone would agree. I don't know why most on this board disagree though. Thing is in my case when driving on the streets and you hit a sharp turn and there's a dip in the middle of that turn, it is very unforgiving. I still want to work with the full stiffness. When it's set to that setting, I truly love it. Just turning into a parking lot you can tell the car wants to plant itself.
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by istan
Front
Hole 1 = 1525 lbs/in (22% Stiffer than stock)
Hole 2 = 1845 lbs/in (48% Stiffer than stock)
Hole 3 = 2270 lbs/in (82% Stiffer than stock)
Hole 4 = 2855 lbs/in (129% Stiffer than stock)

Rear
Hole 1 = 520 lbs/in (80% Stiffer than stock)
Hole 2 = 655 lbs/in (125% Stiffer than stock)
Hole 3 = 840 lbs/in (185% Stiffer than stock)

Looks like a 4 / 2 setting is best.
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 12:14 PM
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^ Why do you say that?
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Originally Posted by VIZAGE
^ Why do you say that?
Haha, because he obviously must feel more comfortable with a predictably "pushy" car. LOL. But it does all depend on the rest of his set-up and wheel and tire size and staggering, I guess.

Some people are comfortable / less-comfortable with different things and feelings, I guess. To each his own.
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 01:28 PM
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Sh*t, I think mine is 2/3?
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by WA2GOOD
All the way stiff on both the front and the rear, Stan. But...on second thought, given the slippery Vegas roads out there, maybe whole three in the front and two in the rear (only of you develope a sliding problem with the full stiff F & R settings)
Well, I'm trying out 3/2 right now. I'll see how it goes. Need it to get dark and go find a parking lot.
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