Sad day for me... Improperly installed TEIN FLEX and Rear upper mount bolt broke off.
My car was taken to a shop to have the TEIN FLEX coilovers installed. One of the upper mounting bolts in the rear that are welded/pressed onto my '08 350z chassis was broken off while they attempted to remove the right rear shock. They sawed it off, drilled through the same spot where the bolt was so that they could place another bolt in.
My question is two-fold. First, would this jeopardize the structural integrity or performance of that particular rear suspension? (There is a reason why Nissan decided to weld/press the bolts there onto the chassis right?)
Second, if so - can I have that area/part replaced? (I was told by Nissan parts department that the bolt cannot be replaced because there is no such part.) Can I replace that particular section so I can have the OEM bolt back?
In addition, they installed the rear springs incorrectly with the adjustment base (gold ring) on the bottom (see pic) instead of on top. I had to take the car back to them to correctly place it. The thing is that I drove the car for about 50 miles. Would that improperly installed adjustment base cause some damage?
The rears also have a rattling and clinking sound... like loose washers and loose fitting. =(
Help please!
My question is two-fold. First, would this jeopardize the structural integrity or performance of that particular rear suspension? (There is a reason why Nissan decided to weld/press the bolts there onto the chassis right?)
Second, if so - can I have that area/part replaced? (I was told by Nissan parts department that the bolt cannot be replaced because there is no such part.) Can I replace that particular section so I can have the OEM bolt back?
In addition, they installed the rear springs incorrectly with the adjustment base (gold ring) on the bottom (see pic) instead of on top. I had to take the car back to them to correctly place it. The thing is that I drove the car for about 50 miles. Would that improperly installed adjustment base cause some damage?
The rears also have a rattling and clinking sound... like loose washers and loose fitting. =(
Help please!
Last edited by xdrius; Apr 8, 2008 at 11:05 PM.
wow. FAIL. what shop was this as so ppl wont go there...something as basic as a coilover install gone this wrong
i believe its the first on the forums too, dont recall ever seeing this problem.
but im sure it would be fine using a bolt...but in most systemes ive seen the bolts are either part of the strut or the chassis...so id be weary with a bolt replacement, unless the bolt was also welded in. (also no part number because its part pf the chassis...just as it appears)
unless you were driving on really rough roads, i dont think the upside down springs would sustain any damage.
but im sure it would be fine using a bolt...but in most systemes ive seen the bolts are either part of the strut or the chassis...so id be weary with a bolt replacement, unless the bolt was also welded in. (also no part number because its part pf the chassis...just as it appears)
unless you were driving on really rough roads, i dont think the upside down springs would sustain any damage.
Last edited by creationv2; Apr 8, 2008 at 10:38 PM.
I'd have it welded in, but that's your only real choice at this point anyways.
How hard are directions to read.. I've never installed TEIN coilovers in particular, but I can't imagine it's that difficult.
How hard are directions to read.. I've never installed TEIN coilovers in particular, but I can't imagine it's that difficult.
Originally Posted by Chebosto
um.. no go at reading install directions?
Here's the replaced bolt (on the right). It's longer and I think the installer forced the nut in because he had a hard time screwing the nut in.
The thing is... I would like to replace the bolt with the same material strength, size, thread, and specification as the OEM bolt - and have it welded/pressed back onto the chassis. I've emailed Nissan inquiring more info about it. Hopefully I can get more info as to how to get that same identical bolt...
The thing is... I would like to replace the bolt with the same material strength, size, thread, and specification as the OEM bolt - and have it welded/pressed back onto the chassis. I've emailed Nissan inquiring more info about it. Hopefully I can get more info as to how to get that same identical bolt...
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Originally Posted by Wired 24/7
If this happened to me, I would probably have my car towed over to GT Motorsports in rancho cucamonga.
http://www.gtmotorsports.com/pages.php?pageid=2
Just hope it doesn't cost me an arm and a leg!
Originally Posted by creationv2
if i were you id get the shop to pay for the repairs/damages since it was their idiocy in not knowing how to correctly do this install.
Originally Posted by Motero
It should be as strong as the welded bolt, if not stronger. I would just leave it along. No one will ever see it.
There is a reason why Nissan decided to weld/press these bolts into the chassis rather than like most other cars. There must be a reason for this design, right?
There are several things that concern me though:
(1) The hole that was drilled is most likely larger than the bolt. Therefore, over time with constant stress and vibration - the bolt will start to vibrate/loosen?
(2) The angle at which the hole was drilled could affect the angle of the bolt - and thus, the angle of the shock?
(3) The bolt material strength may not be as strong as the OEM bolt?
or...
(4) I might be overreacting and being paranoid...
might be over thinking this one...but also rust may form where the hole was drilled into since the wheel well is pretty much exposed to the elements...and thats definitely not something youd want.
You gotta do what you gotta do, But the bolt they put in is fine. it just locates the shock and holds it there. there are no forces on those screws except during extension and if it's tight it's tight.
JET
JET
Last edited by JETPILOT; Apr 9, 2008 at 02:39 PM.
The only reason the OEM bolt is like that is so that you only need to remove the nut to get the strut off. There is no access to the top of the strut from the inside of the car. When they added the new bolt, now it makes it very hard to remove the strut without the bolt turning. This is probably why it is so long, so they could hold the end of the bolt (threaded end) to tighten it. Should not be an issue as long as the bolt is tight and you never change your suspension again.
^+1..........solid aluminum rear strut bar in the way
the oem bolts are weak anyway. Very tiny and their shear strength is very low. I snapped one of mine. Used JB weld to hold the head in place and everything went back together just fine.
Id rather snap the other three and drill/replace with stronger bolts then go through the trouble of rewelding the stock stud back into place.
the oem bolts are weak anyway. Very tiny and their shear strength is very low. I snapped one of mine. Used JB weld to hold the head in place and everything went back together just fine.
Id rather snap the other three and drill/replace with stronger bolts then go through the trouble of rewelding the stock stud back into place.
what happened is not all that uncommon. As mentioned, the stock "stud" is very weak, and shearing it off is not unheard of. There are quite a few parts of the car that are like this.
The way they solved it is perfectly fine and will not cause any issues
The way they solved it is perfectly fine and will not cause any issues
Originally Posted by Cux350z
^+1..........solid aluminum rear strut bar in the way
the oem bolts are weak anyway. Very tiny and their shear strength is very low. I snapped one of mine. Used JB weld to hold the head in place and everything went back together just fine.
Id rather snap the other three and drill/replace with stronger bolts then go through the trouble of rewelding the stock stud back into place.
the oem bolts are weak anyway. Very tiny and their shear strength is very low. I snapped one of mine. Used JB weld to hold the head in place and everything went back together just fine.
Id rather snap the other three and drill/replace with stronger bolts then go through the trouble of rewelding the stock stud back into place.
I'd leave the other 3 bolts alone...
So it seems that people have broken these bolts off as well...
It does hurt to see a part of my new car broken off and drilled into.







