who has what and is it worth it? also, is it better to do an alignment before/after installing wheels spacers?

 

SPC comes with the toe bolts, Ichiba does not. Other than that they are pretty much the same. Alignment, well technically the spacers dont matter, but its a good idea to get all your stuff installed to you normal driving config before alignment.

 

so what about the $50 camber kits off ebay?

 

so with the ichiba, i can't adjust the toe???

 

You can adjust the toe a little bit with the stock arms - just maybe not enough, depending on your drop/camber adjustment. Toe bolts give you that extra adjustment you may need.

 

Align after spacers

 

Are you sure about that? The pics on ebay show the toe bolt

 

It does look like you get the toe bolt, too. Seller just doesn't mention it.

 

Well if you go to the www.ichibausa.com , there is no mention of toe bolts. But it does look to include new bolts to attach your camber arms to your car.

 

Those are the toe bolts, they just happen to put them on the end of the camber arm. Take a look under your rear and you'll see that they use they same bolts as your toe adjustment

 

SPC.
came with toe

 

The ichibausa.com pics show the oem cam bolt that both the oem lower control and oem camber arms have, not the oversized cams that make up the SPC toe cam bolts.

I have alway's felt that the SPC rear kit with toe cams is the way to go. However, I bought the SPL camber arm kit with SPC toe cam bolts because IMO their arm's more robust construction is worth the increased cost.

I know you understand this, but to everyone else. When you dial out greater level's of negitive camber then the oem system can do, your effecting toe more then the oem toe control system can do. So, if you need camber arms, you need the toe cam bolts to.

 

looks like i'll be going with spc to be on the safe side. thanks for the info.

 

I guess upon closer inspection you are right, those aren't the spc toe bolts. The bolt isn't offset far enough on the washer compared to the spc so it must be the OEM bolt