Megan Racing Track Series Coilovers
Megan Racing Track Series Coilovers
Anyone have a review or any info on these regarding reliablity. Spring rates are 14/12 and they seem to be priced amazingly but i am skeptical about ride quality and build quality due to megan's bad rep. Any help woudl be appreciated.
Megan coilovers for the 350Z should be avoided, as should most other cheap coilovers where underdampning is served as the receipe to give the unknowing a so called smooth or better then stock ride quality.
A couple of years ago I got a PM from someone that wanted me to test them and write a review, the importer wanted to get a set out their for review. I learned a couple of things in the whole ordeal. 1). Never accept offers for stuff where someone wants a review as repayment, they might not like it if you don't love the product. 2). I could never own a or run a store front that sold suspensions because I'm sure that the stuff that actually works doen't have good margins, I could never push garbage on other owners for the sake of making a buck. And then to add in review's by people that have no clue what good or bad behavior is and it's a fight I wouldn't want to engage in for a living. 3). I learned that my first thoughts about the product were correct. Not enough time was spent in the R&D oven or the oem maker can't deliver the right internals to deliver proper control dynamics no matter how much R&D time is spend. They were whofully underdampned and over sprung with poor low and high speed control. Running them in the last 6 clicks of their adjustment range was the only way to get some sort of decent control but this ment that low speed control ended up being too much and overall they still performed very poorly. I sold them, but not before buying softer front springs from BC. With the softer springs on the front, they did behave better at least to the point that I felt I could resell them.
A couple of years ago I got a PM from someone that wanted me to test them and write a review, the importer wanted to get a set out their for review. I learned a couple of things in the whole ordeal. 1). Never accept offers for stuff where someone wants a review as repayment, they might not like it if you don't love the product. 2). I could never own a or run a store front that sold suspensions because I'm sure that the stuff that actually works doen't have good margins, I could never push garbage on other owners for the sake of making a buck. And then to add in review's by people that have no clue what good or bad behavior is and it's a fight I wouldn't want to engage in for a living. 3). I learned that my first thoughts about the product were correct. Not enough time was spent in the R&D oven or the oem maker can't deliver the right internals to deliver proper control dynamics no matter how much R&D time is spend. They were whofully underdampned and over sprung with poor low and high speed control. Running them in the last 6 clicks of their adjustment range was the only way to get some sort of decent control but this ment that low speed control ended up being too much and overall they still performed very poorly. I sold them, but not before buying softer front springs from BC. With the softer springs on the front, they did behave better at least to the point that I felt I could resell them.
That was what i was afraid of. Any thoughts on D2 racing/ BC racing/kw variant 1 coilovers. I'm looking for a quality product geared more towards performance than street. BTW all coilovers can be adjusted in height from no drop at all to a certain drop that specific coilover can go to.correct?
Originally Posted by A.H
That was what i was afraid of. Any thoughts on D2 racing/ BC racing/kw variant 1 coilovers. I'm looking for a quality product geared more towards performance than street. BTW all coilovers can be adjusted in height from no drop at all to a certain drop that specific coilover can go to.correct?
Budget?
What do you want out of the coilovers, performance, looks or both?
What drop range would you like the product to have?
What brand names to you like?
What brand names would you never own or don't Like?
Because of my experience with the Megan product, I would not touch the Bc Racing coilover, afterall they make the Megan coilover. I don't quite buy their argument that the Megan product is what it is because Megan specs it that way and get's lessor internals vs their own label. I also do not feel that the court of public opinion is a very good filter that looks at the whole picture when it comes to dampning behavior. I certainly would not touch the D2 product either.
The Kw can be purchased at a lower price if you shop around for the Eibach Pro-S coilover, it is a exact clone of the Kw varient 1. IMO, expand your budget can get you some enhancement's that would help on the performance side. (HKS III, Cusco Zero2, Bilstein PSS9 to name a few).
Not all coilovers can get to oem height, doesn't help that some brands have zero info on height range adjustablity, IMO this tells us how much R&D time was spent.
BUdget is around 1200 and i do not want to drop more than .8 rear and .6 front. Hearing good things about stance and they seem to have good spring rates too but i like the german quality of the variant 1's but the only thing stopping me from getting the variant 1's is i ahve a feeling its geared too much for street comfort rather than track performance. I won't be trackign my car every weekend but around once every month or two. Also, i know the stance has much higher spring rates than the KW's but i believe that spring rates aren't everythign and it could happen that the KW's hadnle better for my tastes. Also what are opions on teh JIC coilover that retails for around 1600. Could you elaborate on this and give your final opion between these three.I really appreciate it if you woudl give me your opion on which you would choose and why and the maybe the second one you wodl choose. THx for your help
Last edited by A.H; Apr 20, 2008 at 11:59 PM.
Originally Posted by Gsedan35
Megan coilovers for the 350Z should be avoided, as should most other cheap coilovers where underdampning is served as the receipe to give the unknowing a so called smooth or better then stock ride quality.
A couple of years ago I got a PM from someone that wanted me to test them and write a review, the importer wanted to get a set out their for review. I learned a couple of things in the whole ordeal. 1). Never accept offers for stuff where someone wants a review as repayment, they might not like it if you don't love the product. 2). I could never own a or run a store front that sold suspensions because I'm sure that the stuff that actually works doen't have good margins, I could never push garbage on other owners for the sake of making a buck. And then to add in review's by people that have no clue what good or bad behavior is and it's a fight I wouldn't want to engage in for a living. 3). I learned that my first thoughts about the product were correct. Not enough time was spent in the R&D oven or the oem maker can't deliver the right internals to deliver proper control dynamics no matter how much R&D time is spend. They were whofully underdampned and over sprung with poor low and high speed control. Running them in the last 6 clicks of their adjustment range was the only way to get some sort of decent control but this ment that low speed control ended up being too much and overall they still performed very poorly. I sold them, but not before buying softer front springs from BC. With the softer springs on the front, they did behave better at least to the point that I felt I could resell them.
A couple of years ago I got a PM from someone that wanted me to test them and write a review, the importer wanted to get a set out their for review. I learned a couple of things in the whole ordeal. 1). Never accept offers for stuff where someone wants a review as repayment, they might not like it if you don't love the product. 2). I could never own a or run a store front that sold suspensions because I'm sure that the stuff that actually works doen't have good margins, I could never push garbage on other owners for the sake of making a buck. And then to add in review's by people that have no clue what good or bad behavior is and it's a fight I wouldn't want to engage in for a living. 3). I learned that my first thoughts about the product were correct. Not enough time was spent in the R&D oven or the oem maker can't deliver the right internals to deliver proper control dynamics no matter how much R&D time is spend. They were whofully underdampned and over sprung with poor low and high speed control. Running them in the last 6 clicks of their adjustment range was the only way to get some sort of decent control but this ment that low speed control ended up being too much and overall they still performed very poorly. I sold them, but not before buying softer front springs from BC. With the softer springs on the front, they did behave better at least to the point that I felt I could resell them.
JET
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No.... I did not buy Megan's. I don't even remember looking for a set. I had the D2's. I never used them at the track, but for street drivingthey were fine.
I bought another set of coilovers 2 weeks ago. I drove them at Sebring 2 days after.
The thing about evaluations is that they take alot of time. Each shock has a sweet spot as the valving/spring rate can only be matched for a single velocity/rate of compression/rebound. At any other piston velocitiy the valving will be off.
It may take more time to get the valving/spring rate setting that works, but for people who don't have $4000 to spend on a set of Zeal Function R or MOTON coilovers doesn't mean that their aren't benefits to cheaper coilovers.
Dampening is always a compromise even on the best shocks. You set your dampening for low speed turns, and the valving will be off for the high speed straight aways.
It's going to take me a while to get the shocks set up for Sebring which is the track I run. My shocks were definetly under dampened this past weekend. I couldn't adjust the rear shocks dampening because I did not have the valve adjuster extensions installed.
But I will be better able to evaluate the shocks now that I have the ability to adjust the dampening at my next track day. I will find the sweet spot for these. They were only set @ 6 out of 12 clicks.
JET
I bought another set of coilovers 2 weeks ago. I drove them at Sebring 2 days after.
The thing about evaluations is that they take alot of time. Each shock has a sweet spot as the valving/spring rate can only be matched for a single velocity/rate of compression/rebound. At any other piston velocitiy the valving will be off.
It may take more time to get the valving/spring rate setting that works, but for people who don't have $4000 to spend on a set of Zeal Function R or MOTON coilovers doesn't mean that their aren't benefits to cheaper coilovers.
Dampening is always a compromise even on the best shocks. You set your dampening for low speed turns, and the valving will be off for the high speed straight aways.
It's going to take me a while to get the shocks set up for Sebring which is the track I run. My shocks were definetly under dampened this past weekend. I couldn't adjust the rear shocks dampening because I did not have the valve adjuster extensions installed.
But I will be better able to evaluate the shocks now that I have the ability to adjust the dampening at my next track day. I will find the sweet spot for these. They were only set @ 6 out of 12 clicks.
JET
Id give BC Racing Coilovers a look. Ive been searching for reviews on them and havent seen a bad one yet. They arent that much more than the Megan's and from what I hear they are a lot better. Do your research and if your intereseted I would talk to Adam @ Z1 Performance...he was giving me a nice deal.
Originally Posted by JETPILOT
What does your shock test consist of? What is your proffesional experience that makes you qualified to evaluate shocks?
JET
JET
You get what you pay for with suspension, especially dampers. Your wishing the compromise on performance/behavior won't be that great. I simply suggest that more thought go into product selection. To that end, I will be heading a effort to get more shock dyno's done so we can have more substance to discussion's like this.
http://farnorthracing.com/autocross_secrets6.html
I don't understand your response.
You get what you pay for with everything in life including toothepaste.
I want to hear your evaluatrion of the Megan coilovers. Where were they tested? What setting were they set to? Was there a shock dyno involved?
Your not giving us any info to go on here other than you get what you pay for.
JET
You get what you pay for with everything in life including toothepaste.
I want to hear your evaluatrion of the Megan coilovers. Where were they tested? What setting were they set to? Was there a shock dyno involved?
Your not giving us any info to go on here other than you get what you pay for.
JET
Originally Posted by A.H
Ok so now i'm todl that kw's are jsut for cruising and if i wanted somethign that will perform on teh track and good for the street i shoudl get stance gr+
The only potential issue with the rear true coilover is that it places alot of stress on that rubber bushing the shock mounts to as it is now bearing the weight of the vehicle. Keep an eye on it as it can be crushed/torn. I have a true coilover rear as well and I have had no bushing issues yet after 18,000mi.
JET
JET
