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Old 07-28-2008, 10:30 AM
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Default Brake pad temperature question for the pros

I wenting tracking 2 weeks ago in my stock '07 non-brembo Z and was wondering if you guys could tell around how hot things got to turn my stock pads into white ash like that. Just wondering if new pads is enough (EBC yellows) or do I really need to work on my braking skills. Yeah, the rear pads completely melted away. See pics below for details.



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Old 07-28-2008, 10:39 AM
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Yeah.....That wasn't really a good idea. With all that damage you never had brake fade?

Get some brake pads designed to operate in the temp zone you need. I never hear of anyone using EBC pads o nthe track.
Old 07-28-2008, 10:54 AM
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I used EBC yellow pads with good results on the 06 and newer brakes just like yours. They work just fine till you move up to slicks.

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Old 07-28-2008, 11:34 AM
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Well no one could you tell you how hot you got your brakes but you surely went over the maximum operating temp for the stock brake pads. I'm sure the max operating temp on the stock pads aren't very high though. Probably somewhere around 500-600 deg F???
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I remember you saying your rears were grinding on the way home... but it looks like your fronts took a beating too which makes a little more sense than just the rears taking a beating...

Did you bed in the pads when you first got the car? I'm guessing your OEM pads never saw serious heat before.... and the sheriffs track gave them a rude awakening... regardless... OEM pads just won't cut it on the track... they're made to work well cold.... so when they start getting hot they're outside of their intended operating temperature and start to fade and eventually start to do what you see in your pictures....

new pads will do wonders for you... (make sure you get all 4 rotors resurfaced, or get new rotors)... you might also want to change out your brake fluid or at least bleed the system in case you boiled any fluid...

as far as working on your braking... there is always room for improvement... one big thing to avoid is riding the brakes.... you want to get on the brakes with some authority and get off as soon as possible... like on that front straight... some people will start braking way too early and not nearly hard enough.... this will overheat brakes very quickly.... it also gets tricky when you start running into traffic... instead of going all out and then having to keep scrubbing off speed or riding your brakes because the guy in front of you is doing it...... is to just take it easy with the throttle until you get a chance to pass... sounds easy but you'll catch yourself doing it if your not thinking about it...
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I assume that this is a open road course. A 20-minute session can push front brake temperatures to 600 degrees plus. That’s asking a lot from the OEM brakes. Maybe its time for new rotors and competition pads.
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Well I will be bringing a pyrometer to the next event so we can put some numbers down next time.
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that will be nice...

btw... are you going to hallett with us?
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