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Old 10-22-2008, 10:43 PM
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I've been searching and reading through a few threads and I have a question. I've come to the understanding that changing toe will effect camber and changing camber will effect toe. Say for example that I dropped the car about 1.5'' in the front which put the camber out of spec, would that prevent me from getting my toe within spec? This would be on factory suspension.
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Might help?

https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-susp...g-reviews.html

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"Within spec" is a loose term Nissan uses to say that this alignment is close enough to stock to produce a safe vehicle that performs like we said it would.

Front camber is not adjustable w/o a minimum of $300 or so for used adjustable upper A-arms. Toe is completely adjustable and you don't need to worry about it.

Rear camber and toe ARE adjustable, but the range is not large enough for a drop of more than .75-1 inch or so. SPC and Eibach make an affordable camber/toe solution that increases the range of movement for both adjustments and get you back in spec in most if not all cases.

If you lower your car a decent amount, .75-1 inch, it may be a wise choice to get a REAR camber/toe kit just in case. Any more than 1 inch and it's almost guaranteed. The front camber doesn't change as much as the rear, so even though you MAY be out of "spec" it's not that big of a deal. Front toe will be able to be adjusted to within spec though.

Lots of people I know PERSONALLY run between -1.5 to -3 degees of camber on the street. Tire wear won't be great past -2 or so, but GENERALLY grip will be increased.

That is the basics. You should really read up on how alignments affect handling. www.sportcompactcarweb.com has a geat series of tech articles.
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OK thanks, thats what I needed to know. As long as I can get front toe within a good range I'll be satisfied, I don't really care too much about the camber. I know the rear camber kit is a must, I needed verification that front toe can be corrected no matter how bad front camber is.
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Camber is also very important for handling. It can turn an understeering/oversteering car into a well balanced car. Not to mention saves your tires.
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Originally Posted by THe Emperor
OK thanks, thats what I needed to know. As long as I can get front toe within a good range I'll be satisfied, I don't really care too much about the camber. I know the rear camber kit is a must, I needed verification that front toe can be corrected no matter how bad front camber is.
yes this is accurate...for the most part

As long as your front camber is greater than -2.0 deg you'll be fine (in between 0 and -2.0)

The Toe is easily adjusted via the tie rods.

rear kit, also depends on the drop. typically you'll need at least toe bolts to give more adjustment. but you never really know until you jump in and do it.
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Cool, I'm going with the Eibach/SPC rear kit so it'll come with toe bolts. I'll know for sure how bad the front camber is once I put my springs on and go for an alignment.
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Originally Posted by THe Emperor
Cool, I'm going with the Eibach/SPC rear kit so it'll come with toe bolts. I'll know for sure how bad the front camber is once I put my springs on and go for an alignment.
drive it for a week or so to give the springs time to settle. if you don't your alignment will be a waste...as ride height alters alignment
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Would my springs be settled already since they were on a G35 for almost a year? Or do they have to settle on my car?
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Originally Posted by THe Emperor
Would my springs be settled already since they were on a G35 for almost a year? Or do they have to settle on my car?
in that case drive em for a day or so...the spring itself will have settled, but the spring, in your suspension may/may not....takes a few miles/ bumps to be certain everything is where its going to be. (I'm overly cautious sometimes.) but you should def. drive it around the block or so before aligning.
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OK Thanks
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