B & G springs, Eibach alternative
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If I remember correctly, the Eibach and other cars lowered are slightly out of spec in camber even after an alignment. I do not recall any Eibach owner complain about wear even though the camber is slightly off. The only perfect answer is to buy an expensive ft camber kit. If I am wrong on that issue, then let me know.
I will get my car aligned within about a week and then I will let you guys know.......................
I will get my car aligned within about a week and then I will let you guys know.......................
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Just curious Zland? what kind of offset are you running on those 18's, and I understand you have the tires running stagger, but running 35 series, wouldn't that affect the TCS? does your slip light come on at all? I'm still trying to figure out the whole dimension of the tire size and rims . So, any info would greatly appreciated!!! thanks.
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Originally posted by SHIFT_Z
Just curious Zland? what kind of offset are you running on those 18's, and I understand you have the tires running stagger, but running 35 series, wouldn't that affect the TCS? does your slip light come on at all? I'm still trying to figure out the whole dimension of the tire size and rims . So, any info would greatly appreciated!!! thanks.
Just curious Zland? what kind of offset are you running on those 18's, and I understand you have the tires running stagger, but running 35 series, wouldn't that affect the TCS? does your slip light come on at all? I'm still trying to figure out the whole dimension of the tire size and rims . So, any info would greatly appreciated!!! thanks.
2. HRE did my offset based on wheel width and tires I was putting on it. I never asked them offsets since they guarranty fit. That is the type of service you get when you go high end on wheels. Sorry i dont know offset but many on this webpage know offsets.
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I got my 4 wheel alignment after installing my springs. Here are the specs:
Rear camber:
Spec: -2.1 to 1.1 degrees
Before alignment: -3.6 left rear/-3.4 rt rear
After alignment: -2.7 left rear (.6 out of spec) -2.8 rt rear (.7 out of spec.)
Ft camber:
Spec: -1.3 to .2 degrees
Before alignment: -1.6 left ft/-1.8 rt ft
After alignment: -1.6 left ft (.3 out of spec) -1.8 rt ft (.5 out of spec.)
Caster and toe are within specs by Nissan.
The alignment guy claims it will not wear too bad (maybe 10-20% loss in tread life) as it is and claims that the negative camber I have is great for handling. He suggests I drive it for about 5K then rotate the tires left/rt on the wheels.
Does anyone have experience with this much out of spec camber and can tell me how poorly they will wear? The negative camber still appears to be visible to me from the rear.
Rear camber:
Spec: -2.1 to 1.1 degrees
Before alignment: -3.6 left rear/-3.4 rt rear
After alignment: -2.7 left rear (.6 out of spec) -2.8 rt rear (.7 out of spec.)
Ft camber:
Spec: -1.3 to .2 degrees
Before alignment: -1.6 left ft/-1.8 rt ft
After alignment: -1.6 left ft (.3 out of spec) -1.8 rt ft (.5 out of spec.)
Caster and toe are within specs by Nissan.
The alignment guy claims it will not wear too bad (maybe 10-20% loss in tread life) as it is and claims that the negative camber I have is great for handling. He suggests I drive it for about 5K then rotate the tires left/rt on the wheels.
Does anyone have experience with this much out of spec camber and can tell me how poorly they will wear? The negative camber still appears to be visible to me from the rear.
Last edited by zland; 10-15-2003 at 08:49 PM.
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I am debating on getting a camber kit for the rear. I am not sure if my existing camber on rears of -.7 degrees out of spec merits the camber kit.
This kit by Kinetix was posted on e-bay for $219.99. What do you guys think?
Jeff
This kit by Kinetix was posted on e-bay for $219.99. What do you guys think?
Jeff
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What would be cool is if Zland could take a drive in a Z with the Eibach kit in it right after he drove his and give us his 'butt' comfort impression.. more stiff, smoother, etc.
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I will tell you what I can do. Greg Vogel sells both the B & G and Eibach springs for the Z and he even use to uhave the Eibachs on the Mossy Z prior to putting on Nismo S. I can have him drive my Z and he can compare them both.
I do know that he already drove the 1st protype of the B & G springs on another Z and already liked it more than eibach's. He had input into modifying that protype so my springs which are the protype of the actually production spring, should be even better. All they did on mine differnet than the first set is raise the rear a little. Now, it is 1" lowere thanstock.
I do know that he already drove the 1st protype of the B & G springs on another Z and already liked it more than eibach's. He had input into modifying that protype so my springs which are the protype of the actually production spring, should be even better. All they did on mine differnet than the first set is raise the rear a little. Now, it is 1" lowere thanstock.
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These B&G Springs sound (and look) awesome! I was going to go with Eibach, but I think these might have to be a replacement choice instead!
Anyone know the pricing for these? Or should I just email Greg at Mossy?
Anyone know the pricing for these? Or should I just email Greg at Mossy?
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Greg Vogel will have the B & G springs available for the 350Z tomorrow. He will sell them $195 + shipping.
Greg's Phone number is (760) 720-9797
Greg's Phone number is (760) 720-9797
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