rear subframe borked
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I had a little run in with a retaining wall (backing into my driveway, and the tire caught the edge of the wall), which left the suspension on the rear passenger side out of whack. I was taking a look today, and took the rear spring perch off and saw that the part of the subframe where the toe bolt attaches is ripped.
I've sourced a replacement subframe, and am contemplating doing the work myself. Has anyone here done a rear subframe replacement before? Any words of advice?
I've sourced a replacement subframe, and am contemplating doing the work myself. Has anyone here done a rear subframe replacement before? Any words of advice?
Do you have access to air tools? I would say that alone would make the job much, much easier and therefore doable at home. I've never dropped the subframe, but just going by how some of the other underbody bolts are tightened from the factory, they will probably be a bear to release using just some PB and a breaker bar.
Just to give you an idea:
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(replace the *** with 350z, dash, tech to see the image)
You're obviously going to need to disconnect the propeller shaft, driveshafts, and remove the center pumpkin. Not sure off the top of my head if there are any hard lines you need to worry about. Also, I know the rear differential is doable weight-wise, and I'm sure the rear subframe assy is the same since it's aluminum (heavy, but manageable without the need for a lift/dolly).
Just to give you an idea:
http://www.*********.com/w/images/d/...ension_003.jpg
(replace the *** with 350z, dash, tech to see the image)
You're obviously going to need to disconnect the propeller shaft, driveshafts, and remove the center pumpkin. Not sure off the top of my head if there are any hard lines you need to worry about. Also, I know the rear differential is doable weight-wise, and I'm sure the rear subframe assy is the same since it's aluminum (heavy, but manageable without the need for a lift/dolly).
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Do you have access to air tools?
Rear subframe swaps on this car are "interesting".
I don't have a 32mm deep socket yet. I'm going through the manual and seeing what tools I need that I don't currently own.
You can do it in a full day if you wanted to but if you have that much time then you should not have a problem.
A compressor, air tools, deep impact sockets, a lift or a creeper, if you are doing it on jack stands then maybe a tranny jack for the rear pumpkin if you are working alone or even a regular jack if you are creative enough, PB Blaster and patience. The service manual is pretty self explanatory. You are also going to want a torque wrench, deep sockets and grease for when you are putting everything back together.
A compressor, air tools, deep impact sockets, a lift or a creeper, if you are doing it on jack stands then maybe a tranny jack for the rear pumpkin if you are working alone or even a regular jack if you are creative enough, PB Blaster and patience. The service manual is pretty self explanatory. You are also going to want a torque wrench, deep sockets and grease for when you are putting everything back together.
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I finished the project up on Sunday!
In all I spent 4 weekends working on it, but that was nowhere near 4 weekends of solid work. 2 weekends to get it apart -- the first (well, a few hours) was spent wrestling with the exhaust. The next weekend I spent a few hours taking everything else out (half axles, drive shaft, pumpkin, disconnect parking brake, calipers, swaybar, stays, subframe), and transferred the suspension parts to the new subframe.
I followed the DIY pumpkin swap article from the DIY section for disassembly, and then jumped to the service manual for removing the remaining things.

The following weekend I set out to replace the nuts on the suspension (the ones the service manual says to replace on disassembly), and I discovered that the dealership had ordered the wrong nuts. So that weekend was pretty much a waste.

I took off of work early last Thursday, when the new nuts arrived, and was able to get the nuts replaced and torqued correctly. I was also able to get the subframe back up in the car.

I ended up buying a transmission jack adapter, for about $40 from Amazon. Turns out neither of my jacks would work, so I also bought a jack from Advance Auto. It's a torrin trolley jack for SUVs. It lifts the car way higher than either of my craftsman jacks. I also ended up picking up a new set of jackstands, because the ones I had just wouldn't hold the car up high enough.

In all, it was a really rewarding project. My girlfriend helped out during disassembly. It was great seeing her under the car with the impact wrench taking a half-axle out!
I did replace the brake pads too, since I had the pads removed anyways. I ordered them from Z1, and they showed up really quickly. Thanks Kwame!
I followed the DIY pumpkin swap article from the DIY section for disassembly, and then jumped to the service manual for removing the remaining things.

The following weekend I set out to replace the nuts on the suspension (the ones the service manual says to replace on disassembly), and I discovered that the dealership had ordered the wrong nuts. So that weekend was pretty much a waste.

I took off of work early last Thursday, when the new nuts arrived, and was able to get the nuts replaced and torqued correctly. I was also able to get the subframe back up in the car.

I ended up buying a transmission jack adapter, for about $40 from Amazon. Turns out neither of my jacks would work, so I also bought a jack from Advance Auto. It's a torrin trolley jack for SUVs. It lifts the car way higher than either of my craftsman jacks. I also ended up picking up a new set of jackstands, because the ones I had just wouldn't hold the car up high enough.

In all, it was a really rewarding project. My girlfriend helped out during disassembly. It was great seeing her under the car with the impact wrench taking a half-axle out!
I did replace the brake pads too, since I had the pads removed anyways. I ordered them from Z1, and they showed up really quickly. Thanks Kwame!
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Kwame's right, just be careful and you won't have to worry about swapping your subframe.
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