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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 01:46 AM
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Need to fix my camber and caster.

I dont track my car or anything. Just getting some uneven tire wear.

Car is on stock suspension right now.. but will lower later on, probably not much.

I would like something that i can put on and forget about it.

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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 06:28 AM
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Did you hit something to knock your front left out like that??

how much are you gonna lower the car by? I'm on Nismo shocks and struts, with Tanabe Sustec GF210 springs... only lowered about 1" front and 1.2" rear. Don't need the front control arms. Just a rear camber kit and toe bolts, to get back into spec.

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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 08:21 AM
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something is bent.. but to replace the parts, its gonna cost me an arm and a leg.

so A-arm will be a cheaper route for me.

probably lower 1inch in the front or half a inch.

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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by tw8715
something is bent.. but to replace the parts, its gonna cost me an arm and a leg.

so A-arm will be a cheaper route for me.

probably lower 1inch in the front or half a inch.
ok, well honestly, for a drop that small, you don't need to replace the hardware in the front, but since that'll correct the problem and is less than fixing the parts that are bent, I'd say "go for it".
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 08:45 AM
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yea lol.. i know this already.

looking for recommendations
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SPL is really good stuff, but extremely expensive, but I think are one of only a few that adjust front camber AND caster. I'm looking at SPC parts myself, but only the rear stuff. I heard the Kinetix A Arms are the lowest cost but are very good quality, don't think they adjust caster, but not sure.

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im hoping that if i fix the camber.. the caster will come back.

im asking for recommendations cause not sure if i really need SPL parts.

or if i can get away with eibach/spc/ichiba/ect

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Originally Posted by tw8715
something is bent.. but to replace the parts, its gonna cost me an arm and a leg.

so A-arm will be a cheaper route for me.
something?? depending on whats bent then we can figure out what will work for you..

caster is completely off, and something being bent - i agree looking at the alignment sheet alone...

the two things up front hat will for sure affect caster, "IF" all things are fine would be the "compression arm" or the "upper control arm"

1. if your upper is bent, then yes replacing it will fix it!



Originally Posted by tw8715
im hoping that if i fix the camber.. the caster will come back.

im asking for recommendations cause not sure if i really need SPL parts.
2. but if the compression arm is bent, then buying a upper control arm only isn't the RIGHT way to do it.....even if you buy an SPL front upper that also adjust caster....



WHAT IS BENT?
and we can answer you better to fix your car..

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This is the Compression arm:

(shown with SPLs compression arm cone bushing)

Its one of two lower control arms.....the other is the translink(straight one), so finding the compression arm is easy. its the one that is boomerang shaped and curves to the back and mounts to the car unibody and W brace.

if thats bent, it needs replacing, hands down....no work around.

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Originally Posted by dmroberson
SPL is really good stuff, but extremely expensive, but I think are one of only a few that adjust front camber AND caster. I'm looking at SPC parts myself, but only the rear stuff. I heard the Kinetix A Arms are the lowest cost but are very good quality, don't think they adjust caster, but not sure.
That being said OP, if its your upper control arm thats bent, then get the kinetics and be done with it...

and DMRoberson is right, it does not adjust caster....the kinetics i have installed and its a quality product now with their new Stainless steel V2 model.

the rod end adjust every 360 degree turn and equates to about .3 degrees per 360/turn, which isn't so bad.......



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stealership said it could be the lower arm that is shaped like boomerang or the HUGE aluminum metal thing. cant recall the name if the part right now.

but the prices alone for the parts even online were very pricy.

seems like kinetics is the way to go??? lol
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wow, ignoring a bent aluminum suspension arm/spindle is never a good idea.
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They don't seem to know which one is bent. So they wanna try to replace both.

But I don't wanna do trial and error. When an a arm can fix this.

Seems like it can
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Originally Posted by tw8715
They don't seem to know which one is bent. So they wanna try to replace both.

But I don't wanna do trial and error. When an a arm can fix this.

Seems like it can
put your car up on jack stands,

Remove the parts

go to a dealer that has oem parts in stock

Compare yours to the new ones and figure out whats bent.


you cant replace one, with out knowing for sure if something else is bent/damaged. These are cast aluminum parts.........fractures can be catastrophic and fatal since they are suspension components...

OR

Take it to another shop! or dealer...someone that has access to originals or another car to compare and ensure whats bent and whats not.

This idea of "I'm just gonna buy a upper control arm and ignore anything else is by far super stoopid!"


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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 04:39 AM
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just take your arm and your leg...give it away freely and get it fixed right op...

SRS - your going to end up doing it anyway..if you half a$$ it - you WILL pay more in the long run..

TRUST!
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ahh i guess this makes sesnse lol.

thank you for talking some sense into me guys haha

well time to go broke again
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 02:07 AM
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i was wondering if i fix the camber.. would the caster come back into spec?

thanks
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Who is Kinetics? I hope we are not refering to Kinetix, I cannot think of suspension components I'd rather not have then any of their arms. I bought a set then they first came out and promptly resold them.

SPL or Cusco if you want to keep oem stytle rubber bushings vs sperical.

I'm not convinced that SPC's past front arm issues are soley related ride height. If you think those issues have been laid to rest, I see no reason not to add them to the list. Certainly see no fault with their rear arms and elongated toe cam bolts.
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 03:52 PM
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wow.. good to hear. i thought kenitics were all good.

pretty hard to find some reviews on these arms.
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Who is Kinetics? I hope we are not refering to Kinetix, I cannot think of suspension components I'd rather not have then any of their arms. I bought a set then they first came out and promptly resold them.

SPL or Cusco if you want to keep oem stytle rubber bushings vs sperical.

I'm not convinced that SPC's past front arm issues are soley related ride height. If you think those issues have been laid to rest, I see no reason not to add them to the list. Certainly see no fault with their rear arms and elongated toe cam bolts.
what the hell................dude, please read up and review the latest products of kinetics and the VERY WELL KNOWN issues of the crappy spc elongated toe bolts.......

please review those sections here and thread lightly unless your sure of what your talking about.

suspension 101 thread:
review post #7 and #19
https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-...ion-101-a.html

op, read, search review, make up your mind...

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