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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 05:15 PM
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very interested in your brake build... i want this... is it completely unreasonable
to have this on a dd
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by lgear080
very interested in your brake build... i want this... is it completely unreasonable
to have this on a dd

its not unreasonable at all, this car will still be my daily...i plan on taking all the oem drum/cable setup out.

last night i took some measurements with a string and gathered a parts list of fittings/lines i'll need. I should be getting the lines made today; hopefully hook them up too. bleeding will be fun.

pics will come...
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by lgear080
very interested in your brake build... i want this... is it completely unreasonable
to have this on a dd
Originally Posted by KTran
its not unreasonable at all, this car will still be my daily...i plan on taking all the oem drum/cable setup out.

last night i took some measurements with a string and gathered a parts list of fittings/lines i'll need. I should be getting the lines made today; hopefully hook them up too. bleeding will be fun.

pics will come...
ya, i agree, you can daily drive no problem, HOWEVER, make sure you understand that the ABS plug must ALWAYS be disconnected.........you will be daily driving with out ABS and can never hook it back up.

your dash will always have 3 lights on.....vdc/slip/abs lights on...

Read my reply's here about hooking the abs back up and what can happen:

https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-...ighlight=cross

-J
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 05:52 AM
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my footing is the only abs i need


Ksport hydro ebrake in/out port fittings:
IN -7/16"unf
OUT - 3/8"unf
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 06:02 AM
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^ LOL, hell ya!!

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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 11:07 AM
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- brake lines fabbed
- mount bracket fabbed
- ksport bolted down
- lines ran
- line brackets fabbed and mounted


ran out of light; didnt have time to install the lines and bleed the system; next week.

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mount bracket:
a 1/4" piece of 8x5 aluminum that i found around my dad's house; good to have a father that use to be a commercial shrimper


ss brake lines:

IN -7/16"unf 90* bend with a 90" m12x1 - 6' of line
OUT - 3/8"unf 90* bend with a 90" m12x1 - 7' of line
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 11:52 AM
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Awesome work man!

my only suggestion is to wrap the line where it penetrates through "OEM BRAKE CABLE OUTLET" so it doesn't chaffe or cut into the line there...or any of the ends/corners of the steel strap bracket mounts you made....dont want vibration cutting the line on sharp corners...

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looks like the sheet metal can cut into the lines there....maybe tape wrap or cut some thick heater hose and cut a slit down it length wise and wrap it so it doesn't cut into it there.....

maybe its just the angle of view? can tell for sure...but thought i would mention..
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 10:17 PM
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yea, im not completely done yet; just got everything mounted to see how it'll look. I'll wrap the lines when i connect and bleed everything.
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 03:52 AM
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^ looks good man!

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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 06:27 PM
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***UPDATE***

last update was nov. 18 2010, i've driven the car daily...drove it to houston on nov. 28 for a drift event, drove home, and have been driving and having fun with the car ever since. I'm from new orleans...


***important bleeding proceedure***
since the last update, all i did was bleed the system according to fsm, but before then, i had to unbolt the ksport and flip it right side up so that no air would be trapped in the master when bleeding.



before driving to houston, all i did was secure the lines with some radiator hosing so that they wouldnt rubb n cheff after some time.




also removed all of the oem ebrake parts.
lines, shoes, clips, springs, evvrything!
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Old Dec 5, 2011 | 09:18 PM
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Old May 17, 2012 | 06:26 PM
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Hi Everyone,

I know this is an old thread, but i am wondering if anyone had tried using the existing OEM handbrake cable to pull/push the cylinder from the hydraulic handbrake system.

This will allow the car interior to look stock but have the rear brake lock up by the calipers.
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Old May 24, 2012 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bigwhizkid3
Hi Everyone,

I know this is an old thread, but i am wondering if anyone had tried using the existing OEM handbrake cable to pull/push the cylinder from the hydraulic handbrake system.

This will allow the car interior to look stock but have the rear brake lock up by the calipers.
I can see how a cable can pull...but how would it push????

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Old May 31, 2012 | 01:56 PM
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How difficult was this install because I plan on doing this only the ghetto way... With a clutch master cylinder from a Honda. Sorry I'm cheap and I've seen it done very cleanly before. And what was done about abs
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Old May 31, 2012 | 03:20 PM
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^ the set up shown by Ktran can never run the car with ABS again......

grey cannon plug behind the abs module need to be pulled and abs will never function per factory with that set up.

see here where Kevin did the exact same set up and learned that you cant plug the abs back in when you have this mod: read this thread:
https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-...ighlight=kevin

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Old Jun 6, 2012 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Fosgstt
How difficult was this install because I plan on doing this only the ghetto way... With a clutch master cylinder from a Honda. Sorry I'm cheap and I've seen it done very cleanly before. And what was done about abs


Originally Posted by JasonZ-YA
^ the set up shown by Ktran can never run the car with ABS again......

grey cannon plug behind the abs module need to be pulled and abs will never function per factory with that set up.

see here where Kevin did the exact same set up and learned that you cant plug the abs back in when you have this mod: read this thread:
https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-...ighlight=kevin

-J
yea, like jason said, abs will be gone forever, its not needed anyway...you can use your right foot for man abs.


my way is not 100% either but it works, it will not pass xdc or fd rules, but does pass grass roots drift events.

also, with my setup, you can NOT use front brakes while pulling the hydro because the hydro will lock up the front calipers since they share the same brake line route. and once its locked, you'll have to let off the hydro, and tap front brakes to unlock. trying to do that in all one motion while tandem can be a real pain/mistake, but if you're good you can learn how to drift with out front and rear braking at the same time, i had to adapt.

the best and secure way to do it is to just add a separate rear caliper ebrake setup, i think george marstanovic(george on zilvia) and/or pbm(poweredbymax) are in the process of making rear ebrake caliper adapters for 350/370z's.
example:

these are for 240sx/schassis



I have a custom water jetted/machined set of rear separate caliper adapters that utilize stock z33 brembo calipers, got them off of ziptied that will be used correctly on my track/caged drift z.

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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 04:16 PM
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anyone have issues with stalling when the ABS is unplugged??
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 04:17 PM
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also, did you guys change your pads?


I just hooked it up and it feels fine but wont lock. No trouble bleeding it either.
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Old Dec 11, 2012 | 11:58 PM
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Hi, I have a question about connecting the hoses from the image below you use a Y adapter or just you replace brake cables?
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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 01:03 AM
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Hello again, I have one question in my car 350z is a different type of pump abs. in which terminal to connect the hose?
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