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Old 12-16-2010, 11:57 AM
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Default Affordable brake fluid?

What's a good affordable brake fluid for non brembo stock brakes? Driving street only no track.

Will the autozone $3 brake fluids be good enough?
Old 12-16-2010, 12:03 PM
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Just get the cheapist Dot 4 fluid that Walmart or Autozone has. My car has been tracked for over 3 years now, and i just changed over to expensive stuff.
Old 12-16-2010, 12:07 PM
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familiarize yourself with the search function, as this topic has been discussed before. I recommend ATE super blue, which is ~$15 a liter. I would consider any brake fluid as "affordable" considering you only need 1 liter at a time and are not going to be changing it out often
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Motul RBF600 has been great!

There is a lot of research that can be done, boiling points, etc but your car is a daily driver with no track so just get some cheap stuff and be done.........i will say that motul works quite well with our cars......I found it to stiffen up the pedal feel, havent seen a seal break yet, so it must work well with the nissan rubber seals and overall happy with it. I say this having doing many flushes and brake installs on many 350z with my motive power bleeder. I always ask later along with driving their car after install and always hear back great feedback.

about $16 a bottle as well...

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Old 12-16-2010, 01:17 PM
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No need for either of the two brake fluids listed above unless you track your car. Normal Dot 4 from autozone will work beyond your needs and its cheaper.
Old 12-16-2010, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Shawz1102
Will the autozone $3 brake fluids be good enough?
Yes. Brake fluid is brake fluid. $3 or $20 a bottle.
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
No need for either of the two brake fluids listed above unless you track your car. Normal Dot 4 from autozone will work beyond your needs and its cheaper.

Our car uses DOT 3, at least thats what my 07 manual says
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Originally Posted by Shawz1102
Our car uses DOT 3, at least thats what my 07 manual says
I commend you for your DIY maintenance. You are certainly all over the place with your maintenance posts lol.

The reason WE are all enthusiasts is because we are not content with simply what works, but what works better than what the car came with. That in and of itself can span a vast array of levels depending on the individual! So props to you.

What worked for me in the past is Valvoline synthetic brake fluid sold almost anywhere. It satisfies all of oem requirements, but it tested to have a higher boiling point than the average brake fluid for sale over the counter. It's probably around half the price of the ATE superblue fluid I currently use.

You can use dot 3 or 4 brake fluid. The only brake fluid you should avoid is silicone.

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Originally Posted by JasonZ-YA
Motul RBF600 has been great!

There is a lot of research that can be done, boiling points, etc but your car is a daily driver with no track so just get some cheap stuff and be done.........i will say that motul works quite well with our cars......I found it to stiffen up the pedal feel, havent seen a seal break yet, so it must work well with the nissan rubber seals and overall happy with it. I say this having doing many flushes and brake installs on many 350z with my motive power bleeder. I always ask later along with driving their car after install and always hear back great feedback.

about $16 a bottle as well...

-J
Yes if you can dish out extra few bucks, the Motul RBF600 works really well with our Z..been using it on my stock brembos ever since its first flush, even for street this gives you a really nice pedal feel. For cheaper alternative you can consider the Motul DOT4.
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I always seen on some of our vendor sites that some BBK combo's include motul or another brand of brake fluid that was DOT 4. But, I thought the Z took DOT 3 is there a huge difference in the two?
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Dot 4 and Dot 3 are compatible with one another
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Fluid Dry BP Wet BP Est. BP after 6 months US $/oz US $/oz per °F > DOT4
Dry Wet
Castrol SRF 590 518 554 $2.076 $.0144 $.0100
NEO Super DOT 585 421 503 0.983 .0071 .0089
Motul Racing 600 585 421 503 0.712 .0051 .0065
Motul DOT 5.1 509 365 437 0.675 .0107 .0125
ATE Super Blue 536 392 464 0.295 .0033 .0036
ValvolineSyn 503 343 423 0.16 .0023 .0073
ATE SL 500 329 415
Castrol LMA 450 311 381 0.219 .0547 n/a
Gunk DOT 4 510 311 411 0.16 .0024

DOT 5 Spec 500 346 423 n/a n/a n/a
DOT 4 Spec 446 311 379 n/a n/a n/a
DOT 3 Spec 401 284 343 n/a n/a n/a

http://www.volvoclub.org.uk/faq/Brak...omparison.html

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Originally Posted by 0jiggy0
Fluid Dry BP Wet BP Est. BP after 6 months US $/oz US $/oz per °F > DOT4
Dry Wet
Castrol SRF 590 518 554 $2.076 $.0144 $.0100
NEO Super DOT 585 421 503 0.983 .0071 .0089
Motul Racing 600 585 421 503 0.712 .0051 .0065
Motul DOT 5.1 509 365 437 0.675 .0107 .0125
ATE Super Blue 536 392 464 0.295 .0033 .0036
ValvolineSyn 503 343 423 0.16 .0023 .0073
ATE SL 500 329 415
Castrol LMA 450 311 381 0.219 .0547 n/a
Gunk DOT 4 510 311 411 0.16 .0024

DOT 5 Spec 500 346 423 n/a n/a n/a
DOT 4 Spec 446 311 379 n/a n/a n/a
DOT 3 Spec 401 284 343 n/a n/a n/a
So the assumption is that the fluid isn't "completely wet" after 6 months?

I run RBF 600 BTW. Flush twice a year.

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Old 12-16-2010, 10:38 PM
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I wouldn't put race brake fluid in a road car that isn't ever going on the track. My understanding is it is more 'hygroscopic' (attracts and holds moisture).

Your regular Dot 3 or Dot 4 is set and forget for about two years. I wouldn't be so comfortable leaving the same race brake fluid in my brake system for two years.
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im just gonna go with regular autozone DOT 3 or DOT 4 brake fluid ... if it's for the general public, i dont see why not it won't work effective on my stock non-brembos seeing as how i only drive my car on the street. i mean a 350z isn't THAT special that it needs $30 brake fluid... unless i track my car of course
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Originally Posted by Shawz1102
im just gonna go with regular autozone DOT 3 or DOT 4 brake fluid ... if it's for the general public, i dont see why not it won't work effective on my stock non-brembos seeing as how i only drive my car on the street. i mean a 350z isn't THAT special that it needs $30 brake fluid... unless i track my car of course
BINGO, and like i mentioned. I do track my car and ran normal off the shelf Dot 4 for three seasons. I will also say i run off the shelf Dot 4 in everything, my 88 Ford Ranger, my ATV's , dirt bike and i even ran in on my R6 racebike.
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
I do track my car and ran normal off the shelf Dot 4 for three seasons.
This makes me uneasy. I'd be pretty brassed off if some if someone lost brake pedal and hit me from behind, and then I found out they weren't using high temperature fluid.
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Terrasmak isnt an idiot. If he felt that he was boiling his brake fluid he would have upgraded.
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Originally Posted by Buster-here
This makes me uneasy. I'd be pretty brassed off if some if someone lost brake pedal and hit me from behind, and then I found out they weren't using high temperature fluid.
But you'd be OK if he just screwed up and broke too late? :-)
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Originally Posted by betamotorsports
But you'd be OK if he just screwed up and broke too late? :-)
seriously

or that you hit the brakes too early and he had no where to go? That's why there are video games, so you don't have to play with the real stuff


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