Shock+springs combo
01-16-2011, 04:20 PM
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Shock+springs combo
What is the best shock+spring for 04 350Z set? not trying to drop it much 1" is doable due to it is my daily driver atm, thanks everyone for the input 
01-16-2011, 07:23 PM
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I am surprised DavesZ#3 left the thread open considering the number of threads and discusions on this topic. Normally they put a lock on it.
So here is my input while it stays open. Look into Tokico Dspec shock/spring kit.
Lowers 1" all around. Adjustable rebound and compression. Search "Tokico" and read about all the good reviews
So here is my input while it stays open. Look into Tokico Dspec shock/spring kit.
Lowers 1" all around. Adjustable rebound and compression. Search "Tokico" and read about all the good reviews
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01-17-2011, 04:25 AM
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I am surprised DavesZ#3 left the thread open considering the number of threads and discusions on this topic. Normally they put a lock on it.
So here is my input while it stays open. Look into Tokico Dspec shock/spring kit.
Lowers 1" all around. Adjustable rebound and compression. Search "Tokico" and read about all the good reviews
So here is my input while it stays open. Look into Tokico Dspec shock/spring kit.
Lowers 1" all around. Adjustable rebound and compression. Search "Tokico" and read about all the good reviews
01-17-2011, 07:34 AM
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i got that combo on my car and it handles very well. i like the gf210 cuz of the drop and how stiff they are. the D-spec are a great shock and are fully adjustable. i have never installed coilover on my car but i bet it handles just as well while saving a couple $100 dollars.
01-17-2011, 08:48 AM
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'handles very well' is an obviously subjective term - it is largely determined by your tires. Adjustable coilovers don't automatically make a car handle better, and depending on the choice, can often make it handle worse. Same goes for springs, or springs and shocks.
as for the tanabe being stiff, they are not at all actually - not a bad spring to mate to Tokico D spec, but not ideal
as for the tanabe being stiff, they are not at all actually - not a bad spring to mate to Tokico D spec, but not ideal
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01-17-2011, 10:02 AM
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yea i forgot to mention i got 265/35/18 +12 ---295/35/18 +15
GF210 are 20-30% higher spring rate over stock. what would be ideal for d-spec that offers a 1/1.25 inch drop?
ik NF210 arent stiff at all and tiens are pretty stiff but only drop .7
GF210 are 20-30% higher spring rate over stock. what would be ideal for d-spec that offers a 1/1.25 inch drop?
ik NF210 arent stiff at all and tiens are pretty stiff but only drop .7
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01-17-2011, 10:57 AM
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I have seen people run on BC-Racing and other such type coilovers. Their lnog term costs are well over their initial costs and their original value. Coilovers like BC-Racing are cheap to purchase, but their pillowball eventually wear out to cause clunking noises. Their dampers will also need replacements after a year or so of daily use.
The dampers found on coilovers like BC-Racing or megan Racing are universal, meaning that they can sometimes be overdamped or underdamped for certain vehicles. They may feel good when new at full stiffness to match the hard springs for our 350Z applications, but as they wear out, they would become bouncy. This is because the same dampers for the 350Z may also be found on the Honda Fit and Miata, for example, which require softer dampers.
Unfortunately, that is also the design philosophy of Stance as well. I know that they generally get good reviews from drifters and many 350Z owners. They are a notch better than the BC-Racing and Megan Racing coilovers. But I would not consider them high quality. I still read a lot of these shocks losing damping very quickly after one year of use.
I personally only use high quality coilovers from HKS, Bilsteins. In my case with the G35, I choose to go with a set of quality lowering springs and Bilstein B6, with new hardware. All cost under $1000. This setup will outlast any cheap coilover setup and offer the best ride comfort/performance ratio available. Any quality springs and shocks is a great alternative to cheap coilovers setup.
If you don't have the money to spend, just save up for something like the Buddy Club. If you can spare the money, get Bilsteins or HKS.
The dampers found on coilovers like BC-Racing or megan Racing are universal, meaning that they can sometimes be overdamped or underdamped for certain vehicles. They may feel good when new at full stiffness to match the hard springs for our 350Z applications, but as they wear out, they would become bouncy. This is because the same dampers for the 350Z may also be found on the Honda Fit and Miata, for example, which require softer dampers.
Unfortunately, that is also the design philosophy of Stance as well. I know that they generally get good reviews from drifters and many 350Z owners. They are a notch better than the BC-Racing and Megan Racing coilovers. But I would not consider them high quality. I still read a lot of these shocks losing damping very quickly after one year of use.
I personally only use high quality coilovers from HKS, Bilsteins. In my case with the G35, I choose to go with a set of quality lowering springs and Bilstein B6, with new hardware. All cost under $1000. This setup will outlast any cheap coilover setup and offer the best ride comfort/performance ratio available. Any quality springs and shocks is a great alternative to cheap coilovers setup.
If you don't have the money to spend, just save up for something like the Buddy Club. If you can spare the money, get Bilsteins or HKS.
01-17-2011, 11:40 AM
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I have seen people run on BC-Racing and other such type coilovers. Their lnog term costs are well over their initial costs and their original value. Coilovers like BC-Racing are cheap to purchase, but their pillowball eventually wear out to cause clunking noises. Their dampers will also need replacements after a year or so of daily use.
The dampers found on coilovers like BC-Racing or megan Racing are universal, meaning that they can sometimes be overdamped or underdamped for certain vehicles. They may feel good when new at full stiffness to match the hard springs for our 350Z applications, but as they wear out, they would become bouncy. This is because the same dampers for the 350Z may also be found on the Honda Fit and Miata, for example, which require softer dampers.
Unfortunately, that is also the design philosophy of Stance as well. I know that they generally get good reviews from drifters and many 350Z owners. They are a notch better than the BC-Racing and Megan Racing coilovers. But I would not consider them high quality. I still read a lot of these shocks losing damping very quickly after one year of use.
I personally only use high quality coilovers from HKS, Bilsteins. In my case with the G35, I choose to go with a set of quality lowering springs and Bilstein B6, with new hardware. All cost under $1000. This setup will outlast any cheap coilover setup and offer the best ride comfort/performance ratio available. Any quality springs and shocks is a great alternative to cheap coilovers setup.
If you don't have the money to spend, just save up for something like the Buddy Club. If you can spare the money, get Bilsteins or HKS.
The dampers found on coilovers like BC-Racing or megan Racing are universal, meaning that they can sometimes be overdamped or underdamped for certain vehicles. They may feel good when new at full stiffness to match the hard springs for our 350Z applications, but as they wear out, they would become bouncy. This is because the same dampers for the 350Z may also be found on the Honda Fit and Miata, for example, which require softer dampers.
Unfortunately, that is also the design philosophy of Stance as well. I know that they generally get good reviews from drifters and many 350Z owners. They are a notch better than the BC-Racing and Megan Racing coilovers. But I would not consider them high quality. I still read a lot of these shocks losing damping very quickly after one year of use.
I personally only use high quality coilovers from HKS, Bilsteins. In my case with the G35, I choose to go with a set of quality lowering springs and Bilstein B6, with new hardware. All cost under $1000. This setup will outlast any cheap coilover setup and offer the best ride comfort/performance ratio available. Any quality springs and shocks is a great alternative to cheap coilovers setup.
If you don't have the money to spend, just save up for something like the Buddy Club. If you can spare the money, get Bilsteins or HKS.
01-17-2011, 03:27 PM
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The second most important component of handling (after a good LSD) are the shocks. Not the springs, not the lowering, not the upper cambers arms, not the sway bars - the shocks. You should spend as much money as possible on the shocks. A "coil over" kit for $1,000 has the crappiest shocks made by man. Well, the old lever shocks on MGs and Morgans are probably worse.
01-17-2011, 03:33 PM
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Having run a set of D-Specs (HTS) shocks on a dyno, compression damping does increase as you move from soft to firm, but at a much lower rate then rebound. In almost all sealed shocks you get a some increase in compression as rebound goes up because of the basic valving design. Tokico Illuminas are the worst with an almost linear increase in compression and rebound as you make shock adjustments. Tokico did their homework on the HTS and kept the compression damping increase to a minimum on the D-Spec (HTS). They are also somewhat digressive.
01-17-2011, 05:49 PM
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Having run a set of D-Specs (HTS) shocks on a dyno, compression damping does increase as you move from soft to firm, but at a much lower rate then rebound. In almost all sealed shocks you get a some increase in compression as rebound goes up because of the basic valving design. Tokico Illuminas are the worst with an almost linear increase in compression and rebound as you make shock adjustments. Tokico did their homework on the HTS and kept the compression damping increase to a minimum on the D-Spec (HTS). They are also somewhat digressive.
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I have seen people run on BC-Racing and other such type coilovers. Their lnog term costs are well over their initial costs and their original value. Coilovers like BC-Racing are cheap to purchase, but their pillowball eventually wear out to cause clunking noises. Their dampers will also need replacements after a year or so of daily use.
The dampers found on coilovers like BC-Racing or megan Racing are universal, meaning that they can sometimes be overdamped or underdamped for certain vehicles. They may feel good when new at full stiffness to match the hard springs for our 350Z applications, but as they wear out, they would become bouncy. This is because the same dampers for the 350Z may also be found on the Honda Fit and Miata, for example, which require softer dampers.
Unfortunately, that is also the design philosophy of Stance as well. I know that they generally get good reviews from drifters and many 350Z owners. They are a notch better than the BC-Racing and Megan Racing coilovers. But I would not consider them high quality. I still read a lot of these shocks losing damping very quickly after one year of use.
I personally only use high quality coilovers from HKS, Bilsteins. In my case with the G35, I choose to go with a set of quality lowering springs and Bilstein B6, with new hardware. All cost under $1000. This setup will outlast any cheap coilover setup and offer the best ride comfort/performance ratio available. Any quality springs and shocks is a great alternative to cheap coilovers setup.
If you don't have the money to spend, just save up for something like the Buddy Club. If you can spare the money, get Bilsteins or HKS.
The dampers found on coilovers like BC-Racing or megan Racing are universal, meaning that they can sometimes be overdamped or underdamped for certain vehicles. They may feel good when new at full stiffness to match the hard springs for our 350Z applications, but as they wear out, they would become bouncy. This is because the same dampers for the 350Z may also be found on the Honda Fit and Miata, for example, which require softer dampers.
Unfortunately, that is also the design philosophy of Stance as well. I know that they generally get good reviews from drifters and many 350Z owners. They are a notch better than the BC-Racing and Megan Racing coilovers. But I would not consider them high quality. I still read a lot of these shocks losing damping very quickly after one year of use.
I personally only use high quality coilovers from HKS, Bilsteins. In my case with the G35, I choose to go with a set of quality lowering springs and Bilstein B6, with new hardware. All cost under $1000. This setup will outlast any cheap coilover setup and offer the best ride comfort/performance ratio available. Any quality springs and shocks is a great alternative to cheap coilovers setup.
If you don't have the money to spend, just save up for something like the Buddy Club. If you can spare the money, get Bilsteins or HKS.