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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by TehkMob
Lowering springs dont do **** to stock shocks... The lowering sprigs end up being preloaded before they ever go on the car!! Do you know what preload is? Means there is already compression on the spring before ANY weight is put on it by the car. You have to compress the lowering spring before you can even put them on! how does that affect the shock? A stock shock still has like 3000 inches of suspension travel plus most lowering spring come with a stiffer spring than stock.. You will NEVER hit bumpstop on a stock shock with a good lowering spring period. You can rock lowering spring on a stock shock on a 350 all fuggin day with out problems unless your shocks already have the miles... One thing he did say that was right, 1. be realistic with the goals you have for your car and 2. budget.
the average lowering spring for a 350Z is either 1. progressive in nature or 2. not a tremendous increase in spring rate from stock. Hitting the bumpstops becomes much more likely with a lowering spring on this car. The stock shocks were never valved to control a spring with a massively increased rate, and were never conceived to have their stroke cut by large %'s. This is why you find that a stock shock with a lowering spring, take your pick which one, tends to have an average life of around 30-40k miles, when those springs were installed onto new shocks.
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
the average lowering spring for a 350Z is either 1. progressive in nature or 2. not a tremendous increase in spring rate from stock. Hitting the bumpstops becomes much more likely with a lowering spring on this car. The stock shocks were never valved to control a spring with a massively increased rate, and were never conceived to have their stroke cut by large %'s. This is why you find that a stock shock with a lowering spring, take your pick which one, tends to have an average life of around 30-40k miles, when those springs were installed onto new shocks.
I'm glad you mentioned the valving of the OEM strut vs. the spring rate. Seems to me that when you increase the spring rate, you are increasing the force exerted by the spring (Force = Spring Rate x Displacement). The damper has to "control" that spring force, i.e. transmit and absorb it. So if you don't have a heavy duty damper mated up with a high rate (high force) spring, your damper will wear out prematurely due to overloading.
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Old Jun 12, 2011 | 11:43 AM
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im sorry . . . i dont mean to highjack the thread . . but was just curious about a good spring combo for the tokico d-specs which give a < 1 inch drop on 07-08 Zs . . . appreciate the feedback
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 01:52 PM
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I installed a set of RS*R springs on my 2004.5, which lowered the car .6 inches. I now feel a lot of bounce using the OEM/stock shocks. The RS*R springs have a rate of 345 FR and 417 lbs RR compared to stock springs of 314 lbs FR and 427 lbs RR. I wouldn't think the increase of about 10% stiffer spring in the front and a -2.4%, less stiff spring in the rear would casue that much more stiffness or bounce. So I figured it may be because the stock springs are already compressed with the .6 inch drop of the springs. I am plannig on upgrading the shocks, but was hoping to to this at a later time. But maybe I have to upgrade now. My car only has 42,000 miles.
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