That's what I thought..

 

Any drop for a Z more than an inch throws the OEM camber off, so you will need camber arms for the front and rear, you will also need toe bolts because you cant set the toe on the OEM suspension after you set camber so you need both, look at SPC or SPL kits and toe bolts if your going to get this springs and shocks

 

Cool, thanks for clarifying.

 

No problem man

 

Tokico setup ftw, I love mine. Wasted so much money going from springs to cheap c/o to finally the DSIIs.

 

If your toe is in OEM Spec why would you install toe bolts? You don't ALWAYS need aftermarket camber kits or toe bolts or whatever else because everyone's set up is different. Do yourself a favor and invest the $170 or whatever it is on the Life Time Alignment deal or whatever deal they have were you can get multiple alignments and go and find out what your specs are before spending money on aftermarket camber kits you don't need. If you are happy with the specs then you don't need to spend money on buying and installing camber kits/bolts etc. When installed my Tokico set up my rear camber was way off so I bought and installed the rear camber kit then took the car back to the alignment shop and got it aligned again. Camber, TOE and everything else was in spec so it did not make sense to waste time and money to install toe bolts.

 

Your front camber was fine with the Tokico kit ? I mean you dont run a front camber kit at all ?

 

Well yeah, I was just trying to figure out what you had to do to get it back within specs. No sense in buying something you don't need.

 

No camber was off on the Tokico kit, I ran a front and rear camber kit in order to be in OEM spec.

 

If this kit drops the car 1" you shouldn't need front camber or rear toe bolts.
You prolly only need rear camber arms only (and might not need those either). You will be slightly out of spec on front camber (maybe 1.7..but that's tolerable and only slightly off). I'm lowered almost 1.5" in rear and got car into spec with stock toe bolts and adjustable camber arms only. Front is just under 1" lowered and around -1.5 camber stock arms.

 

I am on the border of OEM specs with the DS2 spring/shock setup. All stock components, no arms/toe bolts etc.

 

Well, let me ask this... I am considering this setup but I was told by Kyle at IPP that it isn't necessary to go with a camber kit in the rear because you can keep your spring buckets if you choose vs. arms. So the rear set up DSK509 or DSK512 kits are set up like a true coil over in the rear? I haven't seen any pics of them installed on a Z and know of several ppl that are just running the D2 shocks with Hotchkis or Tein springs in which case they have to keep the spring buckets. I guess that's my question: Better to have the entire Tokico kit or match the shocks up with a decent spring?

 

The rear springs are installed the same way as the Hotchkis, (I know because I used to be on Hotchkis springs), I wouldn't run it without the spring buckets.

 

I'd rather run it with the spring bucket. I just wanted to see if the rear kit springs were set up to go over the shock itself similar to a coilover or if they simply retained the OEM position in the spring bucket. Didn't know if there was any real benefit of sticking with a full kit or just get the D shocks and go with another spring.

 

The use of adjustable rear camber arms (and even adjustable toe bolts) has nothing to do with the use of spring buckets or deleting them.

 

If the Tokico rear kit installs as a true coil then the rear bucket could be replaced with a toe arm. That was my question. I didn't mean to confuse this with a camber arm. My mistake.

 

When I got my alignment done I was at -2.2 in the front so I went ahead and got front camber arms because I wanted to be in OEM spec. That's why I'm saying get the lifetime alignment done because everyone's alignment is going to be different and everyone's camber spec preferences will be different. Some people may be ok with -1.5 camber and leave it as that and for others that would not be acceptable and they would want to get front camber arms.

 

I have the exact same D-Spec shock/spring kit. I have spc camber kit with toe bolts. Nothing was needed in the front. Again every car is different. It gave me 1 inch drop front and back