The only advantage to 0 camber is it seemingly increases your chances of attracting men from Australia. If you have motives OTHER than that, don't do it.

 

Lmao ^

 

Perceptions are really off not only on suspension setup but gender as well. Has it occurred to you and your idiot friend that I may actually be a woman?

Now who's having the last laugh!!

As I've said, it just keeps getting better and better..lol

 

Honestly nobody gives a shiit, your getting all butthurt, but your giving out bad info, we called you on it, you dont like our disagreement of opinions, cool, your going to do whatever dumbass thing you want with your car, but dont lead others on the wrong path.

 

In your mind you think I've been caught out. You on the other hand havent? there are different ways to approach camber and toe on a road car to get good overall grip, tracking(yeah there's a new concept for you) and wear. You deal as if camber settings are an absolute, all it does is betray your ignorance and clumsy attitude to car set up.

Want to keep going?

PS: I'm giving out bad info and (sic) ..we called you out on it...

The only WE I can find reference too in this thread is your good self and your friend Mister 7 degrees negative camber. Where are all the other who have posted in this thead? i dont see them breaking their necks to come to your defence...lol

Now for the final time to get it through your head, camber and TOE!!

 

was that a rhetorical question...cuz it kinda seems like you just kept going ANYWAY.


You know that when NOBODY has come to defend you, that's not the best point to use. Just for future reference.
So, quick question. When you say "final time", you realize that this phrase normally implies that whatever is about to follow it has been said numerous times before right? I ask because you haven't really mentioned TOE before. Does that phrase mean something different where you're from? Not trying to pick a fight. Just want to make sure I understand you correctly.

 

BINGO!

Don't let facts stand in the way of a good argument

Go back and read my first post on this thread, my mention of Toe is there for everyone to see. Later posts also heavily reference toe in relation to camber as well. Can you read?

Your Comprehension of written language as I've said is way out but hey it's not like your lack of reading skill is being exposed on a public forum or anything.

 

And here is my first post on 09/12/2013 in case you can't find it. (Hint: it's on page 1) lol.

See the reference to TOE IN in relation to decreased camber?

 

Recently joined this site looking for different opinions and advice on how to setup and maintain my Z.

Reading through this thread I'm appalled at how poorly members interact with each other and the quality of argument.

Is this a good example of the culture on here or what?

 

@Luger, we're not interacting poorly. We're having a healthy discussion...well, I'm trolling Grug because I'm in a pool at work as to how many times I can get him to respond to a post he or she said that he or she wouldn't respond to anymore. I have a free lunch on the line. But most posts aren't like this one. Don't check out the "Aggressive Stance and Stretched Tire" Thread. That's also a pretty heated one.

@grug, I'm not arguing anything. The fact is that 0 camber is bad. There's nothing to argue about. Another fact is that if you're going through tires at a high rate, it's not just your camber that needs to be checked. As an example of this, I have used my current camber of -7 to illustrate. Again, I have yet to argue anything.

And, not to point this out, but we agreed. I didn't want to say anything earlier about it because of this office pool, but it's in there.

That sort of runs me out of my material for ya, so if you wouldn't mind bringing up some other stuff, we can keep this going. Preshate'cha.

 

Honestly no, we just have trash that comes in and has to be taken out sometimes. If you need opinions or answers, search first and ask questions after, there is a ton of info on this site for just about every single problem a 350z has incurred.

 

This is the attitude I'm taking about right here

You're actually one of the worst offenders when I said the quality of argument is poor on this thread.

 

I agree that the quality of argument is poor in this thread however I should declare my interest in this thread goes beyond just being a Z enthusiast who has an opinion to express. You see I'm in the second year of a psychology course and people like Stuart offer up a great case study in building profiles of who they are and what makes them tick.

With each post my class has now been able to determine that Stuart is below average height and stature for a male and also suffers unresolved abandonment issues related to childhood.

This manifests itself with Stuart craving attention and respect from peer groups by displays of overt aggression when perceptions of his peer groups world view is challenged. He feels that this is a sure ticket to acceptance to the point where logic and reason are dispensed with in expressing his opinions. Once Staurt reaches this point he becomes extremely sensitive that others perception of him will fall if he doesnt assert himself, so predictable he becomes even more agressive. Deep down this just reinforces his feelings of inadequacy because away from the online envirnment in real life, Stuart would be one of the meekest people you could ever meet. Should also mention that Stuart's profile makes him susceptible to jealousy particularly when it comes to his possessions and partner. Put Stuart in a room with his girlfriend/ wife and other taller more self assured men and see how he behaves. He also extends this jealousy to his car so I suggest people keep an eye on his behaviour when attending car meets etc.

 

[QUOTE=driftsucky;10238166

@grug, I'm not arguing anything. The fact is that 0 camber is bad. There's nothing to argue about. Another fact is that if you're going through tires at a high rate, it's not just your camber that needs to be checked. As an example of this, I have used my current camber of -7 to illustrate. Again, I have yet to argue anything.

And, not to point this out, but we agreed. I didn't want to say anything earlier about it because of this office pool, but it's in there.

That sort of runs me out of my material for ya, so if you wouldn't mind bringing up some other stuff, we can keep this going. Preshate'cha.[/QUOTE]


I went to all the trouble of finding my original post for you to read and you still don't get it so here goes

Not 0, close to 0
Not 0, close to 0
Not 0, close to 0

Add this one with

Toe in
Toe in
Toe in

Can't believe you exposed your work colleagues to your obvious shortfalls. Anyway, to keep going would only be cruelty so I'll do the decent thing and leave you alone now.

 

Hey. Thanks man. Free lunch!!!! I really didn't think you'd do it. But, cool beans. At this point, it doesn't matter whether you "leave me alone" or not.

I have to ask. Did you really just bring psycho-analogy into a discussion about what causes tire wear? Well done. I have never seen ANYONE ever do that before. I mean, off topic, yes. But you're not even in the wheelhouse. Spot on sir. Spot on.

Hey. Can you do one on me too. We're all kinda curious here now. Thanks in advance.

So, someone brought up a good point. You think you could do like an entire thread on psychoanalyzing? Maybe grab a few random post from folks. I know that's asking a lot, but I just think it'd be interesting. Anywho, that's it.

 

You're issue is just a lack of intelligence. Don't need a PhD to work that out..lol

Now I really will leave you alone... Peace!!!

 

Heres an idea, Why don't you just lay off the guy.

The last thing a young man with low self esteem needs is to have someone like you baiting him at every turn.

You've obviously made you're point, Leave him alone now for christ sake.

 

I do hope you realise you're not helping him build self esteem by posting this crap. In one foul swoop you've turned him into a pathetic victim who deserves pity.

Reality is guys like Stuart are all over the Internet nowadays posting crap, attacking people and just generally regurgitating in parrot fashion what they have read. I mean look at his posts, all he seems to do is follow the long term experienced members and say "it's as blah blah said" nothing original or insightful in this is there ?

Anyway, it's admirable that you feel compelled to shield Stuart from the real world by saying "ahh he has low self esteem, leave him alone". It's this new age PC crap that means young men like our friend Stuart just keep getting away with behaving badly. In the end it's not good for him and its certainly doesn't add anything to this forum.

End rant!!!

 

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


What a let down.

 

If grug1 is in fact a woman that would actually explain a lot.